Comments on: World Cup Seeding Unlikely to Favor the US http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571 Daily Analysis of Major League Soccer Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:41:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26426 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:30:20 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26426 My previous comment was meant for Yvon Lambert. oops. My previous comment was meant for Yvon Lambert. oops.

]]> By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26425 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:25:12 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26425 You'd only get one of those in your group! this whole discussion is about seeds, do you think we only seed in the finasl? are you seriously thay clueless? So the US along with every other team in the group would all beat San Marino (the oldest and longest running democracy in the World), so the US would be no better off, other than maybe goal difference! then you would draw at home to Belgium and lose away, beat Belarus at home and draw away, beat Estonia twice but lose home and away to Russia. leaving you with 17 ponts out of a possible 30. maybe good enough for second maybe not. did Belgium and Belarus tie their games? you'd better hope they did. All these relatively new countries to come out of the Soviet and Yugoslav states have a bit of pedigree you know. when the country's were reformed in the nineties and noughties they had seen a football before! Some of Europes biggest and most successful clubs come from "new" countrys. Dynamo Kiev and Red Star Belgrade spring to mind. these are places that have given the world some great players, you dont seem to realise that. You’d only get one of those in your group! this whole discussion is about seeds, do you think we only seed in the finasl? are you seriously thay clueless? So the US along with every other team in the group would all beat San Marino (the oldest and longest running democracy in the World), so the US would be no better off, other than maybe goal difference! then you would draw at home to Belgium and lose away, beat Belarus at home and draw away, beat Estonia twice but lose home and away to Russia. leaving you with 17 ponts out of a possible 30. maybe good enough for second maybe not. did Belgium and Belarus tie their games? you’d better hope they did. All these relatively new countries to come out of the Soviet and Yugoslav states have a bit of pedigree you know. when the country’s were reformed in the nineties and noughties they had seen a football before! Some of Europes biggest and most successful clubs come from “new” countrys. Dynamo Kiev and Red Star Belgrade spring to mind. these are places that have given the world some great players, you dont seem to realise that.

]]> By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26420 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:46:03 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26420 I'm afraid UEFA and FIFA are both a mess. The FIFA rankings themselves are a joke. How are Sweden ranked 30 places below the US? I’m afraid UEFA and FIFA are both a mess. The FIFA rankings themselves are a joke. How are Sweden ranked 30 places below the US?

]]> By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26419 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:43:14 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26419 Brilliant post! agree with everything. Although if France or Portugal were not the seeds, i would be inclined to seed either Serbia or Denmark for winning very tough groups, rather than the US, CONCACAF is without a doubt the second weakest FIFA region, ahead of only Oceana. Brilliant post! agree with everything. Although if France or Portugal were not the seeds, i would be inclined to seed either Serbia or Denmark for winning very tough groups, rather than the US, CONCACAF is without a doubt the second weakest FIFA region, ahead of only Oceana.

]]> By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26418 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:37:24 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26418 nobody gives a crap about the CONFED Cup. Did you see the team Italy sent out there! Brazil can afford to send their better players because they seldom play in WCQ such is their strength in depth. The big guns only come out when they play Argentina, Paraguay and perhaps the more important away games! It was a pre-season friendly tournament for the Spanish and a chance for the team to acclimatize themselves for next year. Their were no tears from them when they were eliminated! not the players or the fans! nobody gives a crap about the CONFED Cup. Did you see the team Italy sent out there! Brazil can afford to send their better players because they seldom play in WCQ such is their strength in depth. The big guns only come out when they play Argentina, Paraguay and perhaps the more important away games! It was a pre-season friendly tournament for the Spanish and a chance for the team to acclimatize themselves for next year. Their were no tears from them when they were eliminated! not the players or the fans!

]]> By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26416 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:30:16 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26416 Ridiculous! Alright Switzerland were in the weakest group but they won their group so therefore did not struggle. Porugal finished second behind Denmark who are a decent side and finished ahead of Sweden who are better than anyone in CONCACAF. As for the Ukraine, they have finished ahead of Croatia and beat England, albeit down to ten men for 70 minutes to qualify for the playoffs! Wake up mate, and actually watch some UEFA internationals, you might grasp exactly how good the majority of these teams are compared CONCACAF. If you put Ukraine, Portugal and Swittzerland in the hexagonal group, they would all finish in the top four. Ridiculous!

Alright Switzerland were in the weakest group but they won their group so therefore did not struggle. Porugal finished second behind Denmark who are a decent side and finished ahead of Sweden who are better than anyone in CONCACAF. As for the Ukraine, they have finished ahead of Croatia and beat England, albeit down to ten men for 70 minutes to qualify for the playoffs! Wake up mate, and actually watch some UEFA internationals, you might grasp exactly how good the majority of these teams are compared CONCACAF. If you put Ukraine, Portugal and Swittzerland in the hexagonal group, they would all finish in the top four.

]]> By: Bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26414 Bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:22:01 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26414 What three groups would the US not win? Your stupiity baffles me. Looking at the groups im struggling to find one where they would have finished above third. If the US were dropped into UEFA qualifying, it would take a very kind draw for them to even make the playoffs! Half the opinions on this page are so delusional its frightening and it also gives the other half of US "soccer" fans a bad name because there are some really well thought out and educated views on here! What three groups would the US not win? Your stupiity baffles me. Looking at the groups im struggling to find one where they would have finished above third. If the US were dropped into UEFA qualifying, it would take a very kind draw for them to even make the playoffs! Half the opinions on this page are so delusional its frightening and it also gives the other half of US “soccer” fans a bad name because there are some really well thought out and educated views on here!

]]> By: bifdy http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-26399 bifdy Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:16:39 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-26399 i stumbled across this forum when i googled 'world cup seedings', i feel i need to address some alarming opinions, starting with LI Matt's claim that if Scotland could do it so could the US! firstly, and i'm not gonna look up definitive figures here, but between '74 and '90 there were probably half the countries in Europe than there are today! what with the separation of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. and there were far more teams in the San Marino bracket, the likes of Turkey, Cyprus, Norway and finland have improved ten-fold. thats not to take anything away from the Scots as back in the 70's and 80's, given the players that Scotland they actually under performed on reaching the finals. individually they had some of the greatest players in the world. Archie Gemmill, Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness, Willy Miller, Gordon Strachan, Joe Jordan, Denis Law, Alan Hansen, Billy Bremner off the top of my head! they have the medals to prove it too, many of which won European trophy's. Hansen, Souness and Dalglish formed the backbone of perhaps the greatest football dynasty ever seen outside of Madrid, when Liverpool swept all before them in England and Europe! Before you post anything on the web, that someone with some knowledge might happen upon, i suggest you do some research, read a book or something! for those of you suggesting England should not be seeded, what planet are you on? evidently one where teams in the concacaf region are the best in the world! im gonna stick my neck out here and predict that Uruguay beat CR handsomely and at a canter. its ludicrous that there are 3 automatic qualifyers from the worlds second weakest footballing region. put the US in UEFA and with a favourable qualifying draw you might reach a playoff! and whoever said that England couldnt beat Honduras away, whatever drugs you're taking, i want some. if we can destroy Croatia 4 1 away, then i dont think a second world banana republic would fair much better. i keep hearing how inhospitable central american football crowds are! "oh no they're throwing paper cups at Landon Donovan" i dont think 5,000 beer swilling, ftw, working class Englishman would shy away quite as easily as the largely middle class, one songed, sam's army! "army" do me a favour! i agree with one of the posters, the FIFA world rankings are a joke! anything that rates CR more than 40 places ahead of South Africa, Denmark behind Mexico and the US ranked 30 places above Sweden in 11 just cant be taken seriously. i stumbled across this forum when i googled ‘world cup seedings’, i feel i need to address some alarming opinions, starting with LI Matt’s claim that if Scotland could do it so could the US!

firstly, and i’m not gonna look up definitive figures here, but between ‘74 and ‘90 there were probably half the countries in Europe than there are today! what with the separation of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. and there were far more teams in the San Marino bracket, the likes of Turkey, Cyprus, Norway and finland have improved ten-fold. thats not to take anything away from the Scots as back in the 70’s and 80’s, given the players that Scotland they actually under performed on reaching the finals. individually they had some of the greatest players in the world. Archie Gemmill, Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness, Willy Miller, Gordon Strachan, Joe Jordan, Denis Law, Alan Hansen, Billy Bremner off the top of my head! they have the medals to prove it too, many of which won European trophy’s. Hansen, Souness and Dalglish formed the backbone of perhaps the greatest football dynasty ever seen outside of Madrid, when Liverpool swept all before them in England and Europe!

Before you post anything on the web, that someone with some knowledge might happen upon, i suggest you do some research, read a book or something!

for those of you suggesting England should not be seeded, what planet are you on? evidently one where teams in the concacaf region are the best in the world! im gonna stick my neck out here and predict that Uruguay beat CR handsomely and at a canter. its ludicrous that there are 3 automatic qualifyers from the worlds second weakest footballing region. put the US in UEFA and with a favourable qualifying draw you might reach a playoff!

and whoever said that England couldnt beat Honduras away, whatever drugs you’re taking, i want some. if we can destroy Croatia 4 1 away, then i dont think a second world banana republic would fair much better. i keep hearing how inhospitable central american football crowds are! “oh no they’re throwing paper cups at Landon Donovan” i dont think 5,000 beer swilling, ftw, working class Englishman would shy away quite as easily as the largely middle class, one songed, sam’s army! “army” do me a favour!

i agree with one of the posters, the FIFA world rankings are a joke! anything that rates CR more than 40 places ahead of South Africa, Denmark behind Mexico and the US ranked 30 places above Sweden in 11 just cant be taken seriously.

]]> By: Tyler http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-23758 Tyler Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:53:57 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-23758 But the Australia-Japan game had a ridiculous ending! Bad example. But the Australia-Japan game had a ridiculous ending! Bad example.

]]> By: Tyler http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/world-cup-seeding-unlikely-to-favor-the-us/6571#comment-23757 Tyler Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:40:49 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=6571#comment-23757 We didn't crumbe at Azteca...we simply lost. We didn’t crumbe at Azteca…we simply lost.

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