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  1. eplnfl
    eplnfl
    August 30, 2010 at 7:06 am | | Reply


    Do we see a law of nature here, teams that are in the playoff hunt tend to draw better? It would appear to b the case. SJ is the only team in the playoffs spot with a down attendance but that is a team that played in a larger stadium at times last year and therefore the numbers are not true as you point out.

    Given the end of summer, the end of season vacation, that baseball and football are in play, and the popular EPL is now back on TV with it’s new season one would like the numbers of people coming out to see MLS. New stadiums and a couple more DP’s should make 2011 a banner year for MLS attendance.

    1. Charles
      Charles
      August 30, 2010 at 2:36 pm | | Reply


      The “popular EPL” and increased interest in the teams that are contending don’t go together….at all.

      There will always be more interest in a winner, obviously, but virtually every team was in the playoff hunt last year, where was the increased attendance there ?

      I think MLS just keeps increasing in popularity, until people realize how exciting a league it is. Hopefully 2011 is a boom year, like you think.

  2. The Seer
    The Seer
    August 30, 2010 at 7:15 am | | Reply


    Any of the numbers in Columbus, Dallas, Chivas, and Colorado could be improved with a bit of tongue-in-cheek:

    Columbus – move stadium to downtown C-Bus, hold SSS at 15k (exp to 18-20) or move to St. Louis.

    Dallas – sign DP, retro-fit playing schedule, marketing increase, or move to Mexico.

    Colorado – DP and some marketing money maybe? Or replace with Arsenal.

    Chivas – move to San Diego, hold SSS at 15k (exp to 18-20). No laughing on that one.

    I suppose it can also be argued that there just aren’t enough dollars in peoples’ pockets to spend on tickets. But given how much cheaper they are than other sports tix, maybe this is a soft argument. Maybe interest wanes in those markets because the suburb location discourages immigrant populations from traveling to games. Maybe the sport seen as an “immigrant sport” by some xenophobes makes for decreased interest in soccer in markets where illegal immigration is a huge factor (moreso than other parts of the country), i.e Columbus, Dallas, and Denver. Chivas? I just think it was a marketing idea gone wrong. MLS doesn’t need Chivas USA. It needs a San Diego club in a small stadium.

    1. Abram
      Abram
      August 30, 2010 at 2:39 pm | | Reply


      Chivas has become the Los Angeles Clippers of the MLS. They are bad, but not terrible, and could do better for themselves with a move to San Diego. Any chance that ever happens? Who knows.

    2. Charles
      Charles
      August 30, 2010 at 2:43 pm | | Reply


      You say that Columbus is a mistake, then you say move a team to San Diego in a SSS ?
      Do you really think they will find cheap real estate in San Diego to build on where people would attend ? or are you going to build in the ‘burbs with SD traffic ?

      Also, I just don’t agree with the 20k stadium. Is that the end goal ?
      20k ? Look where Toronto says they are, 10k waiting list for tickets.
      Didn’t work very well there.

      1. The Seer
        The Seer
        August 31, 2010 at 6:16 am | | Reply


        You’re right, let’s build a 30,000 seater for the Crew who can’t find 15k to fill their present stadium. Makes sense to me.

        1. Charles
          Charles
          September 1, 2010 at 2:28 pm | | Reply


          You fail either way…..but with the first you have a chance of success.

  3. The-Bored
    The-Bored
    August 30, 2010 at 8:27 am | | Reply


    The common theme between Colorado and Dallas? Both of their stadiums are well out into the suburbs. Meanwhile, Houston’s stadium, which isn’t a fancy or modern SSS, is downtown, and so 7th in the west outdraws 3rd and 5th. The Revs have the worst of both worlds, playing in a football stadium that’s closer to Providence than Boston.

    1. Abram
      Abram
      August 30, 2010 at 2:41 pm | | Reply


      The Revolution are a joke –and I support them– they’re stadium is almost dead in the middle of Providence and Boston, I believe it is two or three miles closer to Providence than Boston. They need to pick a location in either Providence, Boston, or even Hartford and build a stadium there. Gillette is awful for the sport.

  4. Carl
    Carl
    August 31, 2010 at 9:15 pm | | Reply


    Anybody that advocates moving any club with an SSS before a team like DC just does not understand the economics of a professional sport clubs.

    15k in a SSS >>> 17k in a rental.

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