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  1. erp
    erp
    July 13, 2009 at 12:06 am | | Reply


    Bah. Do us all a favor: skip the patriotic pipe dreams and send him to Europe.

  2. Jonathan
    Jonathan
    July 13, 2009 at 12:29 am | | Reply


    Great article! I think Stewart greatly adds to the depth of the U.S. National Team and will make a significant difference in raising the Benchmark for the American game.

  3. andy065
    andy065
    July 13, 2009 at 12:37 am | | Reply


    I fully support this post. Landon Donovan is a highly regarded player in the US, but has only seen trials in major European clubs, like Bayern this past off-season. I honestly see Stuart Holden becoming the next iconic midfielder in US Soccer.

  4. park bolivar
    park bolivar
    July 13, 2009 at 12:52 am | | Reply


    FYI:
    Holden’s 2009 salary: $34,728.75

    He’s 24 or 25. If he’s as good as they say he is, he’d be smart to follow the scrilla.

  5. eplnfl
    eplnfl
    July 13, 2009 at 7:47 am | | Reply


    I’m glad I’m not the only homer around. Good job letting all of us know what is Holden’s long and hard road to making headlines(well deserved) on the national team level. His success is well earned.

    You bring up a good point about how MLS should be doing more promotion of it’s talent. That should be nationally and locally. It seems that a soccer player will only become known to the public if he makes good on the national team. MLS can do more for it’s players including paying them more!

  6. Nick Davies
    Nick Davies
    July 13, 2009 at 9:37 am | | Reply


    Holden & Rogers really stood out in the first game, was surprised not to see Holden get the nod v Honduras. These are the first two games I’ve seen him play, he is player playing with so much confidence at the moment and I want to see him more both with the national team & Houston. I hope the scouts from my club have been watching ;)

  7. Adam Edg
    July 13, 2009 at 10:02 am | | Reply


    Great points. You need marquee players to help build the league’s public image. The fact that he is a hometown player makes him even more valuable. These are the kind of guys MLS should be salivating over.
    It’s time to replace that whiny punk Landycakes with guys like Holden. Helping to land endorsement deals would be great too, but isn’t the league limited by its Adidas contract? Better pay would be nice too, but MLS isn’t bringing in enough dough to pay too much to very many players. Too bad Holden is not in the top tier of the payscale…

  8. Kartik Krishnaiyer
    July 13, 2009 at 10:19 am | | Reply


    Adam Edg, you gave me a perfect teaser for my review of the Beckham Experiment which should be up later this afternoon.

  9. Oscar Baechler
    Oscar Baechler
    July 13, 2009 at 10:23 am | | Reply


    He’s a great player. Which is why it was so satisfying this weekend when the Sounders destroyed Houston. We made that team as ugly as their city ;p

  10. bill
    bill
    July 13, 2009 at 11:59 am | | Reply


    I agree. Funny how your compatriot and philosopher of football Katrik does not even consider Holden as one of the bright spots in the team. It’s those darn USL goggles and that big tall soap box he’s propped up on. All he could talk about were the Haitian USL’ers. Well done by you Brian for actually giving credit where credit is due.

  11. Kartik Krishnaiyer
    July 13, 2009 at 12:00 pm | | Reply


    The single problem with Holden is he doesn’t fit Bradley’s system. Which is why despite this tournament his best bet maybe in the next four year cycle when the tactics are more conventional. I’m not bashing Bradley-in fact his original tactical setup clearly causes trouble for top national teams, but it is unconventional and doesn’t really fit Holden’s skill set.

  12. Kartik Krishnaiyer
    July 13, 2009 at 12:06 pm | | Reply


    Bill, how many guys have you seen I give an 8 too? Holden was the star, no doubt, but we knew that already.

    The reason I focused on the Haitian team is because the ignorance of many US fans and bloggers towards opposition much of it domestically based is embarrassing. I love how some of our fans don’t even know about players playing in their own back yard and act surprised when they do something well against the US. We’ve seen it time and time again in CONCACAF from MLS and USL guys. This was just another case in point- searching around the web after the game I saw no real analysis of the Haitian team, where they played their club football or even how they had performed recently.

    I have been guilty of attacking the English press, but do you think England’s writers have such ignorance of their comparable opposition within UEFA? You bet they don’t. It’s really insulting that by simply trying to better understand CONCACAF which after all is our region and by trying to size up and understand our opposition I get nothing but grief.

    Besides, I am loyal to MLS myself. You wont see me covering this sham World Series of Football or what ever it is called this summer because it is not promoted by SUM, thus it is not legitimate in my eyes and was scheduled in direct conflict with our continental championship, the Gold Cup which to me is eurosnoberry 101. If other writes on this site cover it, fine but I won’t be out of simple respect for MLS and CONCACAF.

  13. Kartik Krishnaiyer
    July 13, 2009 at 12:28 pm | | Reply


    Actually here is what I wrote on the Gold Cup post:

    Another note: The much ballyhooed World Football Challenge is scheduled to begin this week. I for one will not be covering it in any fashion (other than perhaps critical). We have a Continental Championship, the Gold Cup ongoing and the decision of this phony event to use match promoters who are not linked with MLS should leave us all concerned. The three participating European clubs will cannibalize the audience for the Gold Cup and MLS matches, and because SUM is not involved MLS will not get a piece of the action. Moreover, ESPN showing the matches ensures it’ll be well covered. All of this adds up to an event whose failure would be a good thing for all of us. MLS and the USMNT do not need to be competing with Chelsea on its own shores during our season and our continental championship. Other than the Gooch angle with Milan and seeing if Club America is as bad this year as last this “tournament” should hold no interest for the true American soccer fan. I’m not bashing European football in saying this but we have real competitive league and international matches going on at the same time as what is a glorified set of friendlies designed to extort money out of fans who should be spending that cash supporting MLS, USL or the USSF instead.

  14. Rex
    Rex
    July 13, 2009 at 1:16 pm | | Reply


    Stuart has the looks and personality to be the perfect player for the image of MLS. I personally thought he would break into mainstream media during the Olympics but the USA’s failure to advance (partially thanks to Stu reckless tackle) killed that idea.

  15. silente
    silente
    July 13, 2009 at 3:03 pm | | Reply


    Holden truly seems like a great personality. My son is 8 has just finished his 4th Houston Dynamo camp in the last 2 years. Stuart is one of a number of Dynamo players who have not only made appearances at these camps but have actually taken time to talk to the kids and play with them on the training fields. A lot of press was given recently to the wonder those kids in Colorado must have felt at getting to train with Zidane, and I do think that was a great moment for them but, honestly, for my son training with Stuart Holden, a real-life-player for his hometown Dynamo is just as special.

  16. Molly W
    Molly W
    July 13, 2009 at 3:28 pm | | Reply


    Dear Oscar Baechler,

    Did you know that Seattle, Washington has the highest suicide rate of any city in the United States? Interesting…

    Best Wishes,

    -Houston Dynamo (and Stuart Holden) lover

  17. Can't stop watchin'
    Can't stop watchin'
    July 13, 2009 at 5:41 pm | | Reply


    You won’t find many players with an attitude like Stuart…willing to play soccer with his littlest fans at camp and with his older fans after they buy a round of golf with him at a charity function. Nevermind the time he gives to Texas Children’s Hospital, along with many of his teammates…why? Just because!!! They know they can make a difference in the life of a child and their family with a simple visit. All professional athletes should take a chapter out of the “How to be a good human being” book from Stuart and give back to their communities as well.

  18. Eurosnob You Call Me. Real Fan I Call Myself
    Eurosnob You Call Me. Real Fan I Call Myself
    July 13, 2009 at 9:00 pm | | Reply


    This site gets more and more comical by the day. We had an article not long ago saying the USA should play with an MLS based squad in a major tournament. We saw how good that was the other night against Haiti. KArtik redeemed himself a bit with a good post match analysis, but K dude it’s your freaking league who wanted the turf placed in that stadium, so don’t blame FIFA.

    Now we have this piece which glosses over Holden’s failure at Sunderland much like Donovan’s failure at Leverkusen- actually failing at Leverkusen is more respectable. A guy loses the olympic tournament for the US by not passing the ball to an open man to seek his own glory and then commiting a shameful and reckless foul ins toppage time that leads to an own goal and somehow he should be poster child for US Soccer? A guy scores goals against GRENADA and HAITI and he should behailed as the future of US Soccer.

    Are you joking man? Kartik, have some freaking perspective before you write stupid crap like this. You do some very good work but pieces like this which are clearly meant to prove your cred to MLS lovers make you look like a total complete moronic tool as did your statement about not watching the world football challenge because it isn’t marketed by SUM and could hurt MLS.

    It’s MLS’ own fault they play through international breaks and didn’t get SUM in on this action. Don’t deprive those of us who may actually want to see good football this summer that so you can cover Stuart Holden and mighty US Gold Cup team beat up on the Honduras C team in the final. If we play Holden instead of let’s say Dempsey or Feilhaber in qualifying then we deserve what is coming to us.

    Kartik, sometimes you need to just stop pandering and stick with what I sense is your true views on tactics and technical football instead of producing garbage pieces like this praising a guy for scoring against Haiti.

  19. Berlin
    Berlin
    July 13, 2009 at 9:03 pm | | Reply


    Holden for WC2010!

  20. park bolivar
    park bolivar
    July 13, 2009 at 9:49 pm | | Reply


    I was under the impression that Holden didn’t start at Sunderland because he got physically attacked (broke face bones and such) prior to a match…. and decided to head back to the US.

  21. park bolivar
    park bolivar
    July 13, 2009 at 9:50 pm | | Reply


    Er, looks like that story was in the article. Nevermind then.

  22. Brian Zygo
    July 14, 2009 at 7:18 am | | Reply


    Eursnob – please get your facts straight before claiming that Holden was a failure. As Park pointed out, shortly after arriving at Sunderland Holden was a victim of an unprovoked assault, see the following from BBC:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/4374589.stm

    What you also fail to overlook is that since that incident, Holden has benefited from being on a MLS team coached by Dominic Kinnear and John Spencer. It is under their coaching that Holden has flourished as a footballer and I doubt he would have received this type of coaching at Sunderland.

  23. not just yet
    not just yet
    July 14, 2009 at 11:04 am | | Reply


    I do agree that Holden will have a bright future with US soccer. But trying to make him a poster boy before he is a real star will do nothing to further his career. While he is certainly older than Freddy, I still think we should just let talented players be talented players, not fix on one until they develop a complex, and get slammed by the realities of Europe.

    We don’t need a poster boy. We need a whole team full of players that can lacerate top teams. We’re closet than ever. Let’s not overdo it.

  24. HSNCal
    HSNCal
    July 15, 2009 at 7:38 pm | | Reply


    I would hope Holden gets a look at being in the starting 11 for qualifying, especially over Humpty Dempsey at right mid. The only thing that guy is good for is occasionally poaching a goal when someone else does all the work to create it. Holden was the best player on the Olympic squad (granted not saying a lot) and is continuing to improve since. He already has smarts, vision, and great quickness of pace, and he will get quicker at ball distribution by getting more experience at the speed of international play. I agree that Feilhaber should be given the nod in central mid, probably alongside Bradley, but Holden would be a big improvement on both sides of the ball compared to the fluke from Fulham.

  25. Brian Zygo
    July 15, 2009 at 8:00 pm | | Reply


    @not just yet

    For poster boy status, I was thinking of MLS more then US Soccer. MLS does need easily identifiable stars, like NFL, MLB, and NBA.

  26. Kartik Krishnaiyer
    July 15, 2009 at 8:06 pm | | Reply


    No offense HSNCal, but the only way Dempsey doesn’t start at RM in the World Cup is if he starts as a withdrawn striker or on the left side.

    I agree that his work rate is lesser than some of our guys but he has a killer instinct in front of goal in critical situations that the US has rarely if ever had going way back to the 1980s. Sorry, Dempsey isn’t sitting.

  27. soccer goals
    July 17, 2009 at 1:22 pm | | Reply


    Dempsey should start on the right for the World Cup.

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