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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Beckham, Blanco, Angel, Ljunberg, even Gallardo, we’ve had when you include Donovan 5-6 of the top 50 players in the world play in MLS over the last couple years.&quot;

you forgot to put that extra zero after 50...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Beckham, Blanco, Angel, Ljunberg, even Gallardo, we’ve had when you include Donovan 5-6 of the top 50 players in the world play in MLS over the last couple years.&#8221;</p>
<p>you forgot to put that extra zero after 50&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a tip:  when you write articles for a site called MLS Talk call the game soccer not football.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a tip:  when you write articles for a site called MLS Talk call the game soccer not football.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven langlands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven langlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the all star game in Houston 2010, how about playing against Liverpool, manchester United or Arsenal. This would be terrific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the all star game in Houston 2010, how about playing against Liverpool, manchester United or Arsenal. This would be terrific.</p>
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		<title>By: Glyn James Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glyn James Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, MLS has a bright future, I do not buy the low ratings. i know a lot of people DO watch MLS primetime on ESPN. These new SSS do attract more viewers. Don Garber is doing a fantastic job as MLS commisioner.

Go N.Y. Redbull arena 2010 and Philly Unions new stadium........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, MLS has a bright future, I do not buy the low ratings. i know a lot of people DO watch MLS primetime on ESPN. These new SSS do attract more viewers. Don Garber is doing a fantastic job as MLS commisioner.</p>
<p>Go N.Y. Redbull arena 2010 and Philly Unions new stadium&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Kautzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kautzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 05:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s this Christian Renaldo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s this Christian Renaldo?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said JOHAS, but the truth is that these numbers aren&#039;t legit. ESPN releases what they want to release because Nielson&#039;s ratings are not public. 

They want the EPL ratings high so FSC cannot afford to renew and they swoop in and get it.
They want the MLS ratings low so they don&#039;t have to pay a rights fee next time
They had the numbers high when MLS used to pay them so they could demand more money . 

It&#039;s really pretty simply. K&#039;s problem is that he believes everything he reads. If these numbers were legit, I too would be worried about MLS, but trust me that are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said JOHAS, but the truth is that these numbers aren&#8217;t legit. ESPN releases what they want to release because Nielson&#8217;s ratings are not public. </p>
<p>They want the EPL ratings high so FSC cannot afford to renew and they swoop in and get it.<br />
They want the MLS ratings low so they don&#8217;t have to pay a rights fee next time<br />
They had the numbers high when MLS used to pay them so they could demand more money . </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really pretty simply. K&#8217;s problem is that he believes everything he reads. If these numbers were legit, I too would be worried about MLS, but trust me that are not.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does TV really matter in the larger scheme of things?

Honestly, the NASL got 10 X the viewers and a lot more ink in the papers. But  where is the NASL today? Arena Football got decent TV ratings and we used to see the threads on big soccer &quot;AFL beats MLS again in ratings.&quot; But where is Arena Football today? 

The vast majority of American fans don&#039;t care about the Premiership. Their is far more casual interest in MLS than in the EPL and La Liga combined. Because ESPN has not been committed to advertising the games properly, or building the brand, and insist on putting down the product and shifting when the games are on, the ratings have dropped. But right now, MLS is more successful at the gate than all but a handful of worldwide leagues and can be fairly described as the top developmental league in the world. 

Few, if any other leagues have developed as many players who have spread out across Europe and had as much success as MLS. When you add in the number of world superstars we&#039;ve brought in. Beckham, Blanco, Angel, Ljunberg, even Gallardo, we&#039;ve had when you include Donovan 5-6 of the top 50 players in the world play in MLS over the last couple years. Only England, Spain and maybe Italy can match that number.

Alot of American soccer fans are self hating. They feel they need to put down MLS or US Soccer to sound legit. They also feel they have to apologize for liking the game. They want to seem sophisticated by saying they support some Euro team. The truth is MLS is better than the majority of Euro leagues ans the TV numbers don&#039;t matter one iota. The NASL and Arena Football back up that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does TV really matter in the larger scheme of things?</p>
<p>Honestly, the NASL got 10 X the viewers and a lot more ink in the papers. But  where is the NASL today? Arena Football got decent TV ratings and we used to see the threads on big soccer &#8220;AFL beats MLS again in ratings.&#8221; But where is Arena Football today? </p>
<p>The vast majority of American fans don&#8217;t care about the Premiership. Their is far more casual interest in MLS than in the EPL and La Liga combined. Because ESPN has not been committed to advertising the games properly, or building the brand, and insist on putting down the product and shifting when the games are on, the ratings have dropped. But right now, MLS is more successful at the gate than all but a handful of worldwide leagues and can be fairly described as the top developmental league in the world. </p>
<p>Few, if any other leagues have developed as many players who have spread out across Europe and had as much success as MLS. When you add in the number of world superstars we&#8217;ve brought in. Beckham, Blanco, Angel, Ljunberg, even Gallardo, we&#8217;ve had when you include Donovan 5-6 of the top 50 players in the world play in MLS over the last couple years. Only England, Spain and maybe Italy can match that number.</p>
<p>Alot of American soccer fans are self hating. They feel they need to put down MLS or US Soccer to sound legit. They also feel they have to apologize for liking the game. They want to seem sophisticated by saying they support some Euro team. The truth is MLS is better than the majority of Euro leagues ans the TV numbers don&#8217;t matter one iota. The NASL and Arena Football back up that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soccer Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is truly amazing that when Kartik confront some of you with stone cold facts, you say he&#039;s making it up or he&#039;s taking manipulated numbers. 

Let&#039;s set the record straight:

MLS with three fewer markets had twice as many viewers in 1999
MLS had 15 games on ABC in 1999 that averaged close to a 1,000,000 viewers per telecast. ABC is showing zero games this year.
The 2008 MLS Cup had the fewest viewers in MLS Cup history, even though it was the first MLS Cup that featured the team from the nation&#039;s largest TV market.
NASL on ABC had 10 times as many viewers in 1980 as MLS on ESPN2 did in 2008. That is a fact.
ESPN2 is in as many homes as ESPN was in 1999 and the 1999 numbers is a combined ESPN/ESPN 2 number

If anything, I&#039;d criticize Kartik for being incomplete in this article, not pointing out what I did above probably because he&#039;s so stung everytime he posts anything that is true about MLS, it&#039;s like an organized legion of apologists come out to attack him. I&#039;d also criticize him for constantly groveling to you guys. He makes points and then backs off in the comments 
and writes stupid things like ESPN needs to promote MLS more in EPL telecasts. Guess what? MLS has been oversold by ESPN for years. Now that they have La Liga and EPL they will build their brand around those respectable products, not around something that has constantly failed for years. MLS promised ESPN&#039;s John Skipper a 1,000,000 viewers a game by 2010 when they got ESPN to pay a rights fee. Does anyone think that is still realistic? MLS has a problem. They constantly over value their players, over sell their product and over promise what they can deliver. Garber may be a good spin-meister, but eventually someone has to say the emperor has no clothes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is truly amazing that when Kartik confront some of you with stone cold facts, you say he&#8217;s making it up or he&#8217;s taking manipulated numbers. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s set the record straight:</p>
<p>MLS with three fewer markets had twice as many viewers in 1999<br />
MLS had 15 games on ABC in 1999 that averaged close to a 1,000,000 viewers per telecast. ABC is showing zero games this year.<br />
The 2008 MLS Cup had the fewest viewers in MLS Cup history, even though it was the first MLS Cup that featured the team from the nation&#8217;s largest TV market.<br />
NASL on ABC had 10 times as many viewers in 1980 as MLS on ESPN2 did in 2008. That is a fact.<br />
ESPN2 is in as many homes as ESPN was in 1999 and the 1999 numbers is a combined ESPN/ESPN 2 number</p>
<p>If anything, I&#8217;d criticize Kartik for being incomplete in this article, not pointing out what I did above probably because he&#8217;s so stung everytime he posts anything that is true about MLS, it&#8217;s like an organized legion of apologists come out to attack him. I&#8217;d also criticize him for constantly groveling to you guys. He makes points and then backs off in the comments<br />
and writes stupid things like ESPN needs to promote MLS more in EPL telecasts. Guess what? MLS has been oversold by ESPN for years. Now that they have La Liga and EPL they will build their brand around those respectable products, not around something that has constantly failed for years. MLS promised ESPN&#8217;s John Skipper a 1,000,000 viewers a game by 2010 when they got ESPN to pay a rights fee. Does anyone think that is still realistic? MLS has a problem. They constantly over value their players, over sell their product and over promise what they can deliver. Garber may be a good spin-meister, but eventually someone has to say the emperor has no clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first point would hurt our national team as the players wouldn&#039;t develop as well in MLS rather than getting playing time in europe.

All i have to say about your 2nd point is NASL.

No offense but your worst point is your fifth because this has been tried and failed. Superliga&#039;s attendences and overall hype in the US is nonexistent. And most foreign sides have realized that there is more money playing each other, and even when they play the MLS side, people are there and are totally centered towards the foreign side. MLS sides aren&#039;t good enough to make a good impression consistently against world class sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first point would hurt our national team as the players wouldn&#8217;t develop as well in MLS rather than getting playing time in europe.</p>
<p>All i have to say about your 2nd point is NASL.</p>
<p>No offense but your worst point is your fifth because this has been tried and failed. Superliga&#8217;s attendences and overall hype in the US is nonexistent. And most foreign sides have realized that there is more money playing each other, and even when they play the MLS side, people are there and are totally centered towards the foreign side. MLS sides aren&#8217;t good enough to make a good impression consistently against world class sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Kartik Krishnaiyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kartik Krishnaiyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ESPN 2 is 90% of the homes ESPN is in nationally, and in 97% of the homes ESPN was in during the late 1990s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ESPN 2 is 90% of the homes ESPN is in nationally, and in 97% of the homes ESPN was in during the late 1990s.</p>
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