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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
		<link>http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/hoffenheims-american-coup/5722#comment-20166</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why play in a &quot;developmental league&quot; when I can play in a bona fide one?  Why play in front of 3,000 people when I can play in front of 30,000?  Why play somewhere where my name will NEVER show up in the local papers when I can play somewhere that the media wants to interview me after a match?

There is no &quot;minor leagues&quot; for soccer studs in the US.  Young players dont face the same competition in college and are better off playing overseas where they are engaged in a more professional game. 

If I&#039;m in a position to play in a big-time league in a country that drools over soccer... what are my choices?  Its a no brainer to chase the money and head to Europe.  If I stay domestic, I&#039;ll get to play with 40-year olds in the MLS.  Oh the joy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why play in a &#8220;developmental league&#8221; when I can play in a bona fide one?  Why play in front of 3,000 people when I can play in front of 30,000?  Why play somewhere where my name will NEVER show up in the local papers when I can play somewhere that the media wants to interview me after a match?</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;minor leagues&#8221; for soccer studs in the US.  Young players dont face the same competition in college and are better off playing overseas where they are engaged in a more professional game. </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m in a position to play in a big-time league in a country that drools over soccer&#8230; what are my choices?  Its a no brainer to chase the money and head to Europe.  If I stay domestic, I&#8217;ll get to play with 40-year olds in the MLS.  Oh the joy!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/hoffenheims-american-coup/5722#comment-20165</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kartik is now among the leaders of the amaerican eurosnob committee. what did europe do with sztela? kyle davies? johann smith? kartik, why don&#039;t you be fair and instead list the guys that failed in europe that would have been better in mls. 

mols is probably one of the top 2-3 development leagues in thr world. it&#039;s these guys loss they choose to chase the big money as kids and go overseas. just ask robbie rogers who came back from holland and improved in mls- europe is not what it is made out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kartik is now among the leaders of the amaerican eurosnob committee. what did europe do with sztela? kyle davies? johann smith? kartik, why don&#8217;t you be fair and instead list the guys that failed in europe that would have been better in mls. </p>
<p>mols is probably one of the top 2-3 development leagues in thr world. it&#8217;s these guys loss they choose to chase the big money as kids and go overseas. just ask robbie rogers who came back from holland and improved in mls- europe is not what it is made out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does a player (kid) get found?  Is the academy at Bradenton like the USOC center in Colordao where rich kids get speacilized sports educations?

I&#039;ve seen 8 and 9 year old kids that take to formal instruction and have a passion for practicing on their own, but with so many out their, who is combing the parks and passing out invitations?

My 2 year old knows left foot from right foot, follows his shot, drags his toe on throw ins... is he a prodigy (the chances are not high) but he does this all on his own.  A few years from now, will I need to send him to a soccer camp in England and therefore circulate his name on an enrollment roster before a coach (from Bradenton or elsewhere) pays us a visit?

The hope of brokering a lucrative deal for my son will be the impetus to attend UM law and complete the trifecta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does a player (kid) get found?  Is the academy at Bradenton like the USOC center in Colordao where rich kids get speacilized sports educations?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen 8 and 9 year old kids that take to formal instruction and have a passion for practicing on their own, but with so many out their, who is combing the parks and passing out invitations?</p>
<p>My 2 year old knows left foot from right foot, follows his shot, drags his toe on throw ins&#8230; is he a prodigy (the chances are not high) but he does this all on his own.  A few years from now, will I need to send him to a soccer camp in England and therefore circulate his name on an enrollment roster before a coach (from Bradenton or elsewhere) pays us a visit?</p>
<p>The hope of brokering a lucrative deal for my son will be the impetus to attend UM law and complete the trifecta.</p>
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		<title>By: Kartik Krishnaiyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kartik Krishnaiyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be argued in the case of Jozy Altidore that he got better coaching from foreign minded and inspired teachers (German and Latino) at the youth level here in south Florida than at Bradenton. A few months ago, I did a story on the track record of Bradenton. When it was created it was better than what we had but now as youth soccer has stepped up over the last 10 years, it&#039;s become simply another USSF run program that has its positives but also its biases and bureaucratic side. Ultimately, getting these kids off to Europe at a young age or the new owners of USL putting more resources into a reinvigorated Super Y, would render Bradenton less critical to the development of American players than it is now. (Part of me wants USL to just scrap its professional divisions and focus on Super Y, Super 20 and PDL, because those are what the league does well, and without those divisions of USL, US Soccer would not be as far along)


Also, if MLS would step up, negotiate a viable and reasonable CBA and give teams incentives to not only set up academies, but move those players through the system we’d be better off. Red Bull has tried a full academy with USL Super Y, USSF Development Academy and USL Super 20 teams. but ran into trouble with MLS’ odd rules. 

If the CBA changes, MLS can help the cause as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be argued in the case of Jozy Altidore that he got better coaching from foreign minded and inspired teachers (German and Latino) at the youth level here in south Florida than at Bradenton. A few months ago, I did a story on the track record of Bradenton. When it was created it was better than what we had but now as youth soccer has stepped up over the last 10 years, it&#8217;s become simply another USSF run program that has its positives but also its biases and bureaucratic side. Ultimately, getting these kids off to Europe at a young age or the new owners of USL putting more resources into a reinvigorated Super Y, would render Bradenton less critical to the development of American players than it is now. (Part of me wants USL to just scrap its professional divisions and focus on Super Y, Super 20 and PDL, because those are what the league does well, and without those divisions of USL, US Soccer would not be as far along)</p>
<p>Also, if MLS would step up, negotiate a viable and reasonable CBA and give teams incentives to not only set up academies, but move those players through the system we’d be better off. Red Bull has tried a full academy with USL Super Y, USSF Development Academy and USL Super 20 teams. but ran into trouble with MLS’ odd rules. </p>
<p>If the CBA changes, MLS can help the cause as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad these KIDS werent signed by an MLS club.  You all know they&#039;d be playing next season and getting their asses handed to them.  Once more, if I wanted to watch youth soccer, I&#039;d go to the local park.

Look at Freddy Adu... he played MLS at a young age and for starters lacked the size necessary to do anything productive.  While speed does kill, so does getting a &quot;bump&quot; and falling flat on your face whining for a foul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad these KIDS werent signed by an MLS club.  You all know they&#8217;d be playing next season and getting their asses handed to them.  Once more, if I wanted to watch youth soccer, I&#8217;d go to the local park.</p>
<p>Look at Freddy Adu&#8230; he played MLS at a young age and for starters lacked the size necessary to do anything productive.  While speed does kill, so does getting a &#8220;bump&#8221; and falling flat on your face whining for a foul.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this spell the end of Bradenton?

Great for our young US players to get signed internationally and learn in perhaps a better (more competitive) environment.  But at the end of the day... Bradenton could be on the verge of uselessness.

This is soccer, and unlike hockey or football with their infinite numer of &quot;plays,&quot;  soccer is executed on-the-fly.  Yes there are plays for set pieces and throw-ins, etc, but not to the extend of other sports.

What does Bradenton provide?  Some &quot;better coaching,&quot; than youth soccer... perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this spell the end of Bradenton?</p>
<p>Great for our young US players to get signed internationally and learn in perhaps a better (more competitive) environment.  But at the end of the day&#8230; Bradenton could be on the verge of uselessness.</p>
<p>This is soccer, and unlike hockey or football with their infinite numer of &#8220;plays,&#8221;  soccer is executed on-the-fly.  Yes there are plays for set pieces and throw-ins, etc, but not to the extend of other sports.</p>
<p>What does Bradenton provide?  Some &#8220;better coaching,&#8221; than youth soccer&#8230; perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro RUiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alejandro RUiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theyre going to train in Vancouver, site of of a future MLS academy for the 1st year. *gasp* *gasp* *gasp*

Also, remember the last time MLS teams signed a 14-15 year old to play with adults? How did that workout? Fact is, MLS can&#039;t afford to sign youngsters that young.......quite yet, they can only afford to splurge on players that will contribute NOW. Not until every team has a full academy like Vancouver, unfortunately the NCAA is the biggest obstacle. They don&#039;t allow full-residency academies.

Anyway, in some peoples eyes MLS will never be legit no matter what they do. Anyway, it&#039;s not going to happen overnight. They&#039;re finally getting an academy system and graduating them to the senior team. Mainly, Chivas USA (Ironic?).........who has 3 of them on their roster. They&#039;re basically tapping the southern california latino player pool, which as everyone said........is full of overlooked players.

Anyway, in 10 years all MLS teams should have euopean style academies and rendering bradenton moot and the young players will be able to get just as good as environment as they would in Europe or Latin America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theyre going to train in Vancouver, site of of a future MLS academy for the 1st year. *gasp* *gasp* *gasp*</p>
<p>Also, remember the last time MLS teams signed a 14-15 year old to play with adults? How did that workout? Fact is, MLS can&#8217;t afford to sign youngsters that young&#8230;&#8230;.quite yet, they can only afford to splurge on players that will contribute NOW. Not until every team has a full academy like Vancouver, unfortunately the NCAA is the biggest obstacle. They don&#8217;t allow full-residency academies.</p>
<p>Anyway, in some peoples eyes MLS will never be legit no matter what they do. Anyway, it&#8217;s not going to happen overnight. They&#8217;re finally getting an academy system and graduating them to the senior team. Mainly, Chivas USA (Ironic?)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;who has 3 of them on their roster. They&#8217;re basically tapping the southern california latino player pool, which as everyone said&#8230;&#8230;..is full of overlooked players.</p>
<p>Anyway, in 10 years all MLS teams should have euopean style academies and rendering bradenton moot and the young players will be able to get just as good as environment as they would in Europe or Latin America.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Edg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Edg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the money.  Yeah sending two kids to a top development program/club in Germany is good for our national team, but MLS should be focused on developing, nurturing, and maintaining world caliber AMERICAN players in the US.  As much as I enjoy watching MLS for what it is, it will never be considered truly legit until it finds, signs, develops, nurtures, keeps, and improves these types of players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the money.  Yeah sending two kids to a top development program/club in Germany is good for our national team, but MLS should be focused on developing, nurturing, and maintaining world caliber AMERICAN players in the US.  As much as I enjoy watching MLS for what it is, it will never be considered truly legit until it finds, signs, develops, nurtures, keeps, and improves these types of players.</p>
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		<title>By: s.y.l.c.</title>
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		<dc:creator>s.y.l.c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll won&#039;t complain unless this continues to be a problem after the CBA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll won&#8217;t complain unless this continues to be a problem after the CBA.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again MLS shows how poorly run it is. Nevermind signing two highly rated american kids, lets just sign more 35 year old Hondurans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again MLS shows how poorly run it is. Nevermind signing two highly rated american kids, lets just sign more 35 year old Hondurans.</p>
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