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		<title>By: Elton Welsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elton Welsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lower leppings lane end was the week point of a stadium which was other wise considered by many the second best league ground in England after Old Trafford. There had been a near disaster in exactly the same place at the 1981 semi final involving Spurs fans.
The back end of the 84-85 season was the nadir for English football. In the space of just a few weeks you you had  Millwall fans rioting at Luton live on national televison, the death of a teenager after a wall collapsed on him following trouble at Birmingham City vs Leeds United and of course both the Bradford and Heysel disasters.
By the time of Hillsborough  Hooliganisim was already on the decline but the general malaise that affected English football was still evident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lower leppings lane end was the week point of a stadium which was other wise considered by many the second best league ground in England after Old Trafford. There had been a near disaster in exactly the same place at the 1981 semi final involving Spurs fans.<br />
The back end of the 84-85 season was the nadir for English football. In the space of just a few weeks you you had  Millwall fans rioting at Luton live on national televison, the death of a teenager after a wall collapsed on him following trouble at Birmingham City vs Leeds United and of course both the Bradford and Heysel disasters.<br />
By the time of Hillsborough  Hooliganisim was already on the decline but the general malaise that affected English football was still evident.</p>
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		<title>By: Sticky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sticky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LFC:
&quot;To love football is to love English football.&quot;
LOL!  That&#039;s what we need - a little bit more taking cheeky jabs at ourselves.  Less of this heavy-handed racialist stuff.  Thanks, LFC, for bringing a little levity into this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LFC:<br />
&#8220;To love football is to love English football.&#8221;<br />
LOL!  That&#8217;s what we need &#8211; a little bit more taking cheeky jabs at ourselves.  Less of this heavy-handed racialist stuff.  Thanks, LFC, for bringing a little levity into this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>English Premier League is owned by foreigners and played by foreigners. But other then that its english</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>English Premier League is owned by foreigners and played by foreigners. But other then that its english</p>
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		<title>By: Liverpool Football Club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liverpool Football Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kartik, you just HAD to remind me of Mexico 1986!!!  Now I can&#039;t get out of my head that horrendous image of Maradona&#039;s hand on the football.  You ruined my day with that recollection.

Kartik, you were doing good in your other post but now you&#039;re acting childish again.  You&#039;re blaming the death of your domestic league on not getting the 1986 World Cup bid???  WTF.  That league died in 1984!!!!!  The rejection of the US 1986 bid DID NOT kill that league.  Bad business practices did.  One has nothing to do with the other.  Blame the owners of the NAL clubs, NOT the FIFA.  C&#039;mon, man.  America didn&#039;t deserve that bid.  I&#039;m glad Mexico hosted in 1986, I&#039;m just not happy about Maradona&#039;s handball.  IMO, the USA should never host a World Cup.

As I said before, I hope the FIFA dicks over the USA to kingdom come.   But I hope they treat the UK fairly.  England is a footballing nation, the USA is a cancer on society.

@ Haley&#039;s Comet:  Fuck you.  England IS football.  The club World Champion is English and will be again next year.  To love football is to love English football.  You&#039;re just jealous of our success</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kartik, you just HAD to remind me of Mexico 1986!!!  Now I can&#8217;t get out of my head that horrendous image of Maradona&#8217;s hand on the football.  You ruined my day with that recollection.</p>
<p>Kartik, you were doing good in your other post but now you&#8217;re acting childish again.  You&#8217;re blaming the death of your domestic league on not getting the 1986 World Cup bid???  WTF.  That league died in 1984!!!!!  The rejection of the US 1986 bid DID NOT kill that league.  Bad business practices did.  One has nothing to do with the other.  Blame the owners of the NAL clubs, NOT the FIFA.  C&#8217;mon, man.  America didn&#8217;t deserve that bid.  I&#8217;m glad Mexico hosted in 1986, I&#8217;m just not happy about Maradona&#8217;s handball.  IMO, the USA should never host a World Cup.</p>
<p>As I said before, I hope the FIFA dicks over the USA to kingdom come.   But I hope they treat the UK fairly.  England is a footballing nation, the USA is a cancer on society.</p>
<p>@ Haley&#8217;s Comet:  Fuck you.  England IS football.  The club World Champion is English and will be again next year.  To love football is to love English football.  You&#8217;re just jealous of our success</p>
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		<title>By: mcsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm shouldn&#039;t this piece be entitled Heysel: An American Perspective.  Your points about American attitudes towards football at the time match my recollections though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm shouldn&#8217;t this piece be entitled Heysel: An American Perspective.  Your points about American attitudes towards football at the time match my recollections though.</p>
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		<title>By: Haley's Comet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haley's Comet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice piece but can we all move on and talk about American footy history and current MLS, WPS, USL, PDL, whatever not the Premier League and Scousers. 

I hate Liverpool and the English game. If I was interested I&#039;d frequent EPL Talk. I could give two s#$@s about the English game. I like the world game and the american game not mindless obsession about England and how FIFA, Platini the whole world is out to get them.

England is a fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice piece but can we all move on and talk about American footy history and current MLS, WPS, USL, PDL, whatever not the Premier League and Scousers. </p>
<p>I hate Liverpool and the English game. If I was interested I&#8217;d frequent EPL Talk. I could give two s#$@s about the English game. I like the world game and the american game not mindless obsession about England and how FIFA, Platini the whole world is out to get them.</p>
<p>England is a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Kartik Krishnaiyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kartik Krishnaiyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blatter&#039;s suggestion to hold the World Cup every two years showed what an idiot he was. 

You guys are getting me tempted to re-read Andrew Jennings book. He was on the money about so much. 

LFC- Have you read his book? If you dislike Blatter now you&#039;ll loathe him after reading it. The thing is Havelange was a crook also and very anti British as well. He awarded the US the World Cup in 94 only as a consolation prize after helping to destroy our domestic league, the NASL by taking Mexico&#039;s bid to host a second World Cup in 16 years over our superior bid. It was a classic inside job where competitive bidding was not wanted. FIFA did not want the US to bid, and clearly showed they&#039;d take an inferior bid to keep the English speaking peoples out of football management. Henry Kissinger even considered suing FIFA. 

They were even more anglophobic. I strongly believe and this is the underlying theme of the piece, that FIFA and UEFA concocted the myth of Liverpool and English (note not Scottish) hooliganism to get them out of Europe and to eliminate them from hosting a future World Cup. At the same time Italy with open cheating, more violence at football matches, and a fringe element that uses football to organize political activities in a way unthinkable in the UK was rewarded with a World Cup and many European titles. 

Yet the FA in their infinite wisdom supported Blatter over someone who by his nature would have been more pro England. Simply brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blatter&#8217;s suggestion to hold the World Cup every two years showed what an idiot he was. </p>
<p>You guys are getting me tempted to re-read Andrew Jennings book. He was on the money about so much. </p>
<p>LFC- Have you read his book? If you dislike Blatter now you&#8217;ll loathe him after reading it. The thing is Havelange was a crook also and very anti British as well. He awarded the US the World Cup in 94 only as a consolation prize after helping to destroy our domestic league, the NASL by taking Mexico&#8217;s bid to host a second World Cup in 16 years over our superior bid. It was a classic inside job where competitive bidding was not wanted. FIFA did not want the US to bid, and clearly showed they&#8217;d take an inferior bid to keep the English speaking peoples out of football management. Henry Kissinger even considered suing FIFA. </p>
<p>They were even more anglophobic. I strongly believe and this is the underlying theme of the piece, that FIFA and UEFA concocted the myth of Liverpool and English (note not Scottish) hooliganism to get them out of Europe and to eliminate them from hosting a future World Cup. At the same time Italy with open cheating, more violence at football matches, and a fringe element that uses football to organize political activities in a way unthinkable in the UK was rewarded with a World Cup and many European titles. </p>
<p>Yet the FA in their infinite wisdom supported Blatter over someone who by his nature would have been more pro England. Simply brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Americans not accepting somebody of Indian descent is not true in my opinion. The governor of Louisiana Bobby Jindal is of Indian Descent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Americans not accepting somebody of Indian descent is not true in my opinion. The governor of Louisiana Bobby Jindal is of Indian Descent.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kartik Krishnayer I agree with your opinion of Blatter being anglophobic. Thats why I said earlier I do not think the world cup will be hosted by USA or England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kartik Krishnayer I agree with your opinion of Blatter being anglophobic. Thats why I said earlier I do not think the world cup will be hosted by USA or England.</p>
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		<title>By: Liverpool Football Club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liverpool Football Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK has offered your people many benefits and comforts.  I don&#039;t see why  your UK relatives would rather be in the USA.  There&#039;s just no reason.

Well, I&#039;m anti-American but so what?  You shouldn&#039;t side with them either, most Americans would be racist towards you anyway.  Side with the land of your parents/ancestors (or maybe you were born there).  India&#039;s a beautiful place.  As a youth, I was enamored with Aishwarya Rai.  India has much to offer. Identify yourself with them, not the USA.  As I said, many Americans wouldn&#039;t even accept you as American anyway.  Screw &#039;em.

I do read the Sun regularly, but I&#039;ve also been exposed to alot of American culture, as has the rest of the world.  Therein lies the root of the problem.  America butts in EVERYWHERE.  I&#039;m sick of it.  Fuck America.

Fuck Platini too.  I&#039;ll be damned if that 6-5 rule ever takes effect.  Over my dead body.

Let&#039;s hear your opinions on the current state of the French Football Federation and of their domestic league.

What has Blatter done in his regime that&#039;s been good for football?  What has he done that&#039;s been maladaptive?

Future World Cup bids also look to be in jeopardy.  Unless the whole of the UK can bid as one.  Whatever it takes to bring the tournament back here.

What would have been different under Johansson?

The UEFA has had sway and influence regardless.  Remember when Blatter wanted to hold the World Cup every 2 years?  UEFA nixed that one quick, didnt they.  

I think the biggest issue at present is the 6-5 cancer.  The fact that it&#039;s even being mentioned is treacherous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK has offered your people many benefits and comforts.  I don&#8217;t see why  your UK relatives would rather be in the USA.  There&#8217;s just no reason.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m anti-American but so what?  You shouldn&#8217;t side with them either, most Americans would be racist towards you anyway.  Side with the land of your parents/ancestors (or maybe you were born there).  India&#8217;s a beautiful place.  As a youth, I was enamored with Aishwarya Rai.  India has much to offer. Identify yourself with them, not the USA.  As I said, many Americans wouldn&#8217;t even accept you as American anyway.  Screw &#8216;em.</p>
<p>I do read the Sun regularly, but I&#8217;ve also been exposed to alot of American culture, as has the rest of the world.  Therein lies the root of the problem.  America butts in EVERYWHERE.  I&#8217;m sick of it.  Fuck America.</p>
<p>Fuck Platini too.  I&#8217;ll be damned if that 6-5 rule ever takes effect.  Over my dead body.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hear your opinions on the current state of the French Football Federation and of their domestic league.</p>
<p>What has Blatter done in his regime that&#8217;s been good for football?  What has he done that&#8217;s been maladaptive?</p>
<p>Future World Cup bids also look to be in jeopardy.  Unless the whole of the UK can bid as one.  Whatever it takes to bring the tournament back here.</p>
<p>What would have been different under Johansson?</p>
<p>The UEFA has had sway and influence regardless.  Remember when Blatter wanted to hold the World Cup every 2 years?  UEFA nixed that one quick, didnt they.  </p>
<p>I think the biggest issue at present is the 6-5 cancer.  The fact that it&#8217;s even being mentioned is treacherous.</p>
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