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  1. Rob
    Rob
    August 19, 2011 at 11:01 am | | Reply


    Alright, I’ll be the first to point out that the Fire aren’t an original team. They played their first game in ’98, as opposed to DC and the rest of the league’s start in ’96. So close, but not quite.

    Oduro is setting up a lot of chances, but he isn’t finishing any of them off. I’d rather see Barouch or Nazarit up there.

    Grazzini’s play is enjoyable and I think it was a mistake taking him out of the game. This was a game that could be won, worry about Sunday’s game on Sunday. As one of the few players out there with a pulse, he should’ve stayed on.

    I didn’t even realize Pavel Pardo was out there for most of the game. Great signing, Frank. It obviously turned the team around.

    1. Michael
      Michael
      August 19, 2011 at 2:43 pm | | Reply


      While they’re not original, the Fire were only the second team to win the MLS Cup. The first was DC, so that adds another component to their history/rivalry.

  2. Chris G
    Chris G
    August 19, 2011 at 11:21 am | | Reply


    The Chicago Fire were not a founding member of MLS, they joined in 1998. Also, Steven King had a great game last week, scored a goal after coming off of the bench. With the KC game coming up on Sunday I think Benny wanted to rest Tino (especially since he is still trying to come back after his long layoff with the concussion) for that game. As for the offsides, he was off (barely) but the defender was running back as the ball was being played so in real time for a linesman it would be an incredibly tough call. The rules give the benefit to the attacker now so I can see why he left it as a no call.

    The Fire played quite well, especially Nyarko (VT represent!) and I am quite glad DC got a point out of it. There was lots of talk about DC’s resurgence after their home win, how Chicago loses to DC at home and how the Fire are close to this draw record and I knew DC would come out a bit over confident and probably blow it, I’m glad Wolffie got that goal.

    Really upset with the Hamid injury, especially since his replacement for last week, Joe Willis, is out with back spasms after having such a great game against Vancouver. The game against KC is going to be tough and while I hope for a win, I’m thinking a draw will still be an ok outcome.

    Though Jakovic was the best player for DC last night and I’m so glad he’s back. He and McDonald are playing great as a central pair.

  3. Alex
    Alex
    August 19, 2011 at 11:45 am | | Reply


    I was hoping for a united win so they can bump the energy drinks off the playoff zone (which is pretty big) but watching that game was really really boring. It’s easy to see why fire are down in the table they are sloppy like a bunch of ten year olds playing. Disgusting play. I was away when they subbed out hamid but that shot was pretty hard. I think hamid would have stopped it.

    BTW I just want to add Toyota park and Rio tinto are two of the ugliest stadiums in mls. That stage and low level seating makes it look puny and the roof is ridiculously tall for seats soo little. Red bull may be nice but sporting park is by far the nicest stadium

  4. Robert Hay
    August 19, 2011 at 12:46 pm | | Reply


    Hi folks – Chicago’s been around so long I forgot they didn’t join the league in ’96. Thus the change above. Thanks for keeping me honest.

  5. Robert
    Robert
    August 19, 2011 at 2:29 pm | | Reply


    Good o’l parity

  6. AmericanizeSoccer.com
    August 19, 2011 at 2:36 pm | | Reply


    Draws/Ties are not a bad thing if the American public gets used to them. As for the organization, ties are only good when the majority of the rest of your games are wins. If this is the case, the public can get accustomed to drawing (sorry for the pun) satisfaction out of a deadlock.

    1. Alex
      Alex
      August 19, 2011 at 6:46 pm | | Reply


      Yes I agree. Ties are part of soccer its part of the essence of the sport, however its the frequency of ties that makes this league , and fire for that matter, stand out. The only thing that makes teams distinct from one another is their names

    2. The original Tom
      The original Tom
      August 19, 2011 at 7:10 pm | | Reply


      AmericanizeSoccer- I agree; and I think the abolition of ties has been bad for College Football and Hockey because the way they break them is sort of cheesey. College Football, especially, is better with ties because it put pressure on the favored team if a game is tied deep in the 4th quarter.

      I think a 10 tie limit (or more accurately, you only get a point for your first 10 ties, then zero for any additional ties) would be good because it would encourage teams to not settle for them. Ultimately though, the play-off system is responsible for ties. 8 teams would be better, or if more, a single bracket/table system in which it is clearly a big disadvantage to a a low seed would be better.

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