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  1. AdamEdg
    January 10, 2011 at 8:43 am | | Reply


    I agree that there should be additional DP spots for American (& Canadian?) internationals. Maybe allow three domestic DPs and three regular DPs. Sure it would give the bigger clubs more star power, but is there anything inherently wrong with that? It would give MLS the ability to secure domestic stars, which is vital to the continued growth & success of the league and it would still allow big name foreign players to come over. Besides, we’re still only talking about half the players on the pitch being any sort of DP.
    If I understand the rule correctly, the Australian League has a set up like this already.

    1. Ossington Mental Youth
      Ossington Mental Youth
      January 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm | | Reply


      i like this idea alot and think itd work. itd also allow for these teams to keep the players they are developing a bit longer. Im willing to bet we will see this instigated in a few years.

  2. RBNY
    RBNY
    January 10, 2011 at 11:17 am | | Reply


    Not providing working video links is a disgrace.

    1. The Gaffer
      The Gaffer
      January 10, 2011 at 11:45 am | | Reply


      RBNY, the YouTube video works for me.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  3. montana lucky
    montana lucky
    January 10, 2011 at 11:39 am | | Reply


    I agree it is a big disappointment for Buddle to leave, but I think its apparent Buddle had no interest in signing a contract with an MLS team. If DP status is what he wanted, he could have pursued that option with another team within MLS. He was clear he wanted to play in Europe. Everyone blames the money. The league doesnt have the money to compete withing European teams for every player. The last line in the article sums that up. I know it, Don Garber knows it, the owners know it, the players know it, everyone knows it. Repeatedly belaboring that point every time a player leaves for Europe is beating a dead horse. As the league becomes more lucrative, salaries will improve. Money set aside, there is a human element to this that is frequently overlooked, or underestimated. As long there are people playing soccer in America, American players are going to dream of playing overseas. I really don’t think Buddle is following money and this a a failure of MLS, Buddle is following that dream. If his best opportunity happens to be a team in tailspin, good luck to him. I hope he goes there, scores a bunch of goals, makes the difference for the team in the campaign to avoid regulation, and lands a bigger contract.

    1. Linden Hesford
      January 10, 2011 at 5:44 pm | | Reply


      The league appears to have the money to pay Angel? and sorry, Angel is NO Buddle. Buddle was one of my favorite players. Like a young Ruiz Buddle WAS the Galaxys offense last year. He deserves to be paid much more than Angel and now as a longtime Galaxy fan, we are going to suffer with amazingly poor player personnel decisions. Angel made the perfect compliment to Buddle, but Angel alone leaves the Galaxy in a worse position then when they began.

  4. Dave C
    Dave C
    January 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | | Reply


    he moves to a side that will not allow him to play against the world’s best

    Technically, a move to Birmingham wouldn’t have allowed him to play against the world’s best either, just some of the best (i.e. they’re not in the champions league). But the key thing is, it would allow him to play at a higher level than where he is currently(and for more money). And this is where the next part is debateable:

    This is not a move up; it’s a move down in terms of league quality. Why do you think that? I mean it’s subjective, so it might not be settled one way or another, but I’d be interested in knowing what leads you to that view.

  5. Charles
    Charles
    January 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | | Reply


    Not sure that Buddle wanted to be here, but lets say he did and MLS didn’t keep him.

    I agree with you that MLS failed. Signing NKufo/JPA types while letting Buddle go to Germany is just dumb. World Cup bumps will not happen when the star players play for a team noone heard of and noone cares about.
    (By noone I don’t really mean noone, just those with a life outside of watching soccer.)

    1. Joe
      Joe
      January 10, 2011 at 1:53 pm | | Reply


      Why is this an MLS fail? Did anyone claim that the EPL failed when Cristiano Ronaldo went to Real Madrid? How about Mascherano going from Liverpool to Barcelona – is EPL failing by losing players to La Liga? A young man made a choice to continue his career elsewhere. Bundesliga 2. right now is a better football league than MLS, and yes, the money is better. But one man’s decision does not make or break an entire league.

      1. shnope
        shnope
        January 10, 2011 at 3:34 pm | | Reply


        Bundesliga 2 is not better than MLS, especially not a relegation threatened bundes2 side.

        1. Joe
          Joe
          January 10, 2011 at 5:49 pm | | Reply


          I think you can argue that it’s at least equal with MLS, and the pay raise he’ll get by going there makes it almost a no brainer for him.

      2. Charles
        Charles
        January 10, 2011 at 7:48 pm | | Reply


        Joe,

        Agree 100% one man doesn’t or break MLS….but
        the general trend of not getting US national team capped players is dumb and/or unfortunate for MLS.
        Having all of those players play overseas just makes the league look like it doesn’t have the talent that is does. Image is everything.

        Part of that is unfortunate. MLS overall doesn’t have a lot of money. It is easy for players to see what Holden is doing and think I can do that and make a million dollars instead of hundreds of thousands.

        But they should NOT be using the DP spots for washed up ex-EuroHeros to appease a handful of fans that know who they are.

        It causes MLS to have no name (to the masses) NKufo playing in place of Buddle.
        When Buddle is playing on the US Nat team AND better than NKufo.

  6. Ossington Mental Youth
    Ossington Mental Youth
    January 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm | | Reply


    i love the MLS but i think youre being quite delusional if you think its a step down in league quality, id be willing to bet that quite a few of those teams, at least the top half, would have no problems competing with the majority of the MLS. I do however believe the MLS needs to pay its players more, whihc we are seeing slowly until then we will continue to be a feeder league, sad truth but one we’ve been accustomed to for a while.

  7. Ossington Mental Youth
    Ossington Mental Youth
    January 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm | | Reply


    this is not to mention the prestige of playing in europe (sadly sometimes regardless of the country and level)

  8. John W
    John W
    January 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm | | Reply


    I believe u are absolutely right when u say it is disgrace for the MLS. They lost Buddle, top scorer on team and overall great player to a european division two team because they would not pony up the money. Lets face it if they can pay Donovan and Beckham 7 figure salaries they obviously have the funds. They will now sign Angel a washed up forward who is more hype than anything adn Galaxy will def move down in ranks. Buddle did right by signing with this team. His payday was long overdue. I dont even see him staying here long before he is picked up by another team.

  9. Logan
    Logan
    January 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm | | Reply


    Nobody’s made note of Buddle’s age. He’ll be 30 in a few months. That’s the getting-old time for soccer players. He needs to cash in right now while he still can. Good for him. Especially since he’ll be 33 for the next World Cup, so there’s no guarantee he’s making the squad at that time. Though I of course hope he will.

    1. wow
      wow
      January 11, 2011 at 2:33 am | | Reply


      If Buddle is one of our forwards at the 2014 World Cup
      we’re in deep trouble.

  10. Tom
    Tom
    January 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm | | Reply


    Nobody’s faulting Buddle. Our domestic league should put a greater emphasis on keeping our national team players. That is not to say we can keep all of them, but Buddle is an affordable name that people recognize (including my 7 year-old son), and the league needs recognizable names.

    I’d allow that extra DP spot for any CONCACAF player. A well known Jamaican, Hondoran, or Canadien, for example, may be just as valuable in some circumstances.

  11. Jay Cole
    Jay Cole
    January 10, 2011 at 3:06 pm | | Reply


    Here’s how MLS works.
    DeRo – $400,000. 2010 another season with more than 10 goals. 15 goals with an anemic dysfucntional midfield all year long.

    Buddle – $188,000.00 – 17 goals in 2010

    LeToux – $122,000 14 goals, 11 assist in 2010

    Remember Stu Holden, $38,000.00 when he left the Dynamo

    and now onto to aging European has Beens who dont give a f**k about the MLS and have not put any butts in the seats or spiked TV ratings at all!
    OH YEAH! They dont score goals, don’t show up for half the games and seem to be to fragile to play with Americans and Canadiens.

    And for this contribution, they receive paychecks for things they did for other teams most of us will never see!
    Beckham – $5.78 Million
    Rafa “Scumbag” Marquez – $5.5 M
    Mista – $900k – no goals, paid twice what DeRo gets
    DeGuzman – $1.8M 5 times what DeRo gets paid.

    How ? Oh How, Cruel Fate? How did we lose Buddle? …And Holden? And Dempsey? How ! oh HOW?

    1. Charles
      Charles
      January 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm | | Reply


      I agree with you, but they offered Holden a LOT more than 38k.
      Maybe he was ticked for being first team 11 at that level, but MLS cannot pay every up and comer on the edge of DP salaries.

      How could you leave off Ljungberg ? That guy was stopped by every >”and seem to be to fragile to play with Americans and Canadiens.”
      AMEN. I think that is actually Ljungberg’s middle name. He even mistyped Canadians too. ;-)

      1. Charles
        Charles
        January 10, 2011 at 7:56 pm | | Reply


        IT is supposed to read, “stopped by every defender making <$100k."

    2. Bob
      Bob
      January 11, 2011 at 7:27 am | | Reply


      That pretty much sums it up. We give the has been European players 5x what they deserve based on performance and stiff our people how American is that.

    3. ExtraMedium
      ExtraMedium
      January 20, 2011 at 5:33 pm | | Reply


      Jay, you’re on to something. When it comes to overpaying for soccer talent Americans over pay for foreigners. Our teams under pay Americans.

      The rational behind the salary-cap was to prevent overpaying for talent and the league collapsing. So why does the cap apply to Americans? WE DON’T OVER PAY FOR THEM! If Garber/Kraft/AEG/Chang/Hunt family etc were as smart as they what you to think they are then the salary-cap would only apply to non-US/Canadian (maybe CONCACAF) players.

      Teams are charged $355K for DP #2 and 3, with an extra $250K “tax” on DP 3…So why not just dump the cap and charge a tax on foreign players?

  12. GI Joe
    GI Joe
    January 10, 2011 at 6:36 pm | | Reply


    Great Galaxy I hope you are proud with this move!
    It’s always nice to be beatten by a poorly 2. Bundesliga team!

  13. Doorworker
    Doorworker
    January 10, 2011 at 9:48 pm | | Reply


    Idly wondering what Freddy Adu would do with the opportunity created here.

  14. Rabble Rouser
    Rabble Rouser
    January 11, 2011 at 10:00 am | | Reply


    Robert Hay Writing for MLS Talk Is a Disgrace for Soccer

    See, I can do it too.

  15. Peter
    Peter
    January 11, 2011 at 3:14 pm | | Reply


    League 2 in Germany still has more prestige and respect than MLS. Sad but true. Americans can hardly name one MLS team besides maybe NY and LA. And i guarantee that Bundesliga 2 players are very strong players. Soccer is serious business over there. Its about time Buddle making some money. His time is almost up

  16. LAG
    LAG
    January 11, 2011 at 5:04 pm | | Reply


    I agree that MLS needs to devise their own “Larry Bird rule” so clubs can retain their talent.

    Motzkin reps all three of those players at Ingolstadt, so it isn’t surprising that Buddle’s plan B was to go to Ingolstadt, especially since his new contract allows him to leave the club if his British work permit can be sorted out.

    According to Motzkin, LAG were not willing to offer Buddle a DP contract, as they were still in pursuit of Ronaldinho at the time.

    Having spoken to someone extremely close to Buddle, there were a couple of things at play. (1) salary – Edson wants as much money as possible now that he is 30, and felt England was the place to go for it. (2) Edson was not keen on going through the re-entry draft process, where he felt he would end up with Portland or Vancouver playing on turf and shorting his career due to the pounding his joints would take – something he experienced in Toronto.

    I like Edson, and hope that he is selected for the Gold Cup, so that his work permit issues get sorted.

    1. Robert Hay
      January 12, 2011 at 8:16 am | | Reply


      Great info LAG, I would never dismiss a player for wanting to make a little money and give Europe a shot if they had a chance, and I am glad he would have a chance at the EPL.

      But his leaving does expose a problem with MLS, its inability to financially compete to keep Americans in the league.

    2. BobbyB
      BobbyB
      January 12, 2011 at 11:14 am | | Reply


      The note about the turf is a small but important fact. I realize the turf lovers will tell us that it’s all fine and that playing on plastic is better than playing on bad grass (notice the turf lovers always use worst-case grass as the comparison to “great turf”), but players don’t enjoy the plastic stuff. Given a choice, they’ll choose real grass. And it is an important factor with older players. If you’ve ever played on a synthetic field, even supposedly “great field turf”, you know that you still take a pounding on it.

  17. Derrick
    Derrick
    January 13, 2011 at 4:17 am | | Reply


    “Pay me my mo-ney!!!” -Fender Roads

  18. ExtraMedium
    ExtraMedium
    January 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm | | Reply


    “Ultimately, the answer may be a system like in Europe of free agency and academies, but until MLS is as lucrative as those leagues an American DP slot is the best way to keep American stars in the most beneficial place – here.”

    BS. Other soccer leagues adopted their formats decades ago when they were poorer.

    1. Logan
      Logan
      January 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm | | Reply


      Just to point out the obvious while not trying to start an argument, few other countries with soccer leagues have to compete with MLB, NBA, NHL and the almighty NFL.

      One thing no one seems to consider when thinking about the popularity of the beautiful game in the USA– MOST of the world only has the beautiful game, and then some other sports that might *try* to compete with it for popularity. Rugy, for instance. Cricket, too. But NOTHING that is happening sports-wise in the rest of the world really compares to the amount of competition any sport has against any other sport than in does in North America. That’s really all there is to it.

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