Comments on: CONCACAF: MLS Teams Are Not “Failing.”

By: Roque

Roque — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:12:05 +0000

Kevin, you must not know the FMF very well, but it is considered one of the most competetive leagues in the world, much of it has to do with the fact that every year there is a new champion, and only one team has been able to win 2 straight cups consecutivley. Also out of all the mexican teams that have won in the previous league of champions and the only concaChampions league that has been played, it’s usually always a different team to win it. If you were to look at recent games between MLS and FMF teams you will notice that many of the weaker FMF teams usually beat MLS teams, for example Atlante vs Houston, Morelia vs Columbus and so on. I’m not saying the MLS is a bad league, but realisticaly FMF top to bottom is far superior to the MLS teams, it’s been proven many times in matches between the 2 leagues whether they are friendly games or championship matches and 80% of the wins for Mexican clubs doesn’t matter if it’s the stronger or weaker teams, and on another note, Mexican teams have never lost to and MLS side in Mexico, but Mexican clubs have beaten MLS clubs in the U.S. numerous times.

By: TUZO-POR-VIDA

TUZO-POR-VIDA — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:54:19 +0000

Ok FMF is way better than mls and every one knows it. do mls fans ever wonder why they dont get invited by conmebol to any competitions like copa libertadores or copa sudamericana??? and mexican teams always get invited!!! mexican teams have gone to a final of copa libertadores 1 time(cruz azul) , have won a copa sudamericana (pachuca), and how many have mls won??? bolacuadrada you only say that fmf because its obvious your racist to mexicans! mls will never win a tournament because they are not good enough to even play in those tournaments! DC united vs Toluca 1 to 3, cruz azul vs colombus 5 to 0, and houston dynamo is gunna get killed by pachuca! so keep wishing about beating any mexican team in mexico becuz it will not happen jus lik the mexican national team nd usa national team when they play in mexico!!!

By: Rex

Rex — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:25:35 +0000

Soccerrules, I agree with most all your points, but I dont like the continued view that Superliga does not count. True, we shouldn’t weight it as the primary metric, but it DOES count.
It’s not like the MLS teams are bringing all starters for these games either. Plus i am sure the MLS coaches would LOVE to play hungry, fully rested, “B” team players for this mid week games rather than a mix of starters and reserves, most all of which have ready played one game that week and are expected to play another then following weekend.
Dont get me wrong, I am not at all saying MLS is better than the FMF, I just want it to be clear that Superliga does count for something.

By: Soccerrules

Soccerrules — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:13:33 +0000

Bolacuadrada..what makes you think I’m from Mexico? Because I’m defending the league? No. I’m a pure soccer fan, who enjoys any good leagues. I watch a lot of South American leagues and while I know Argentina and Brazil are above the Mexican league, I’ve seen enough games between the two to know the Mexican league is competetive enough to battle out with the best from this CONMBEBOl leaugue. If you watched any of these 2 tournaments you would know what I’m talking about. The Mexican counterparts have reached the last 4 finals in the Copa Sudamericana, the same one in which Pachuca won. But you have to remember that in these 4 finals, Mexican teams have only been INVITES and had to play in South American territory. Leaving all that to the side, as an American who loves soccer, it is just simply foolish to compare the MLS to the FMF. Superliga doesn’t count. The mexican teams always take their young roster, the so called “B” team to these tournaments, (With the exception of Pachuca of course)

By: Rex

Rex — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:29:35 +0000

Bolacuadrada,
“Mexico has been playing in the Libertadores the last 12 years and the Sudamericana for a bunch of years also. They only have 1 trophy to show for (Pachuca)”

Thats a bad comparison. You cant compare the number of trophies won between Mexico and Brazil/Argentina. Those are CONMEBOL tournaments and look at the invites. Mexico has 2-3 teams in those tournaments Brazil/Argentina have 10+! I like the odds of betting on on of the 10+ teams.

By: Bernard

Bernard — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:21:21 +0000

jajajajaja its funny to read MLS fans saying that their league is better than the mexican jajajajaja, its just so freaking funny, jajajajaja, for god’s sakes, count your international trophies and count FMF…. jajajaja so funny, anyway, peaceout losers …

By: Bolacuadrada

Bolacuadrada — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:15:44 +0000

Soccerrules,
I know the Mexican teams compete with the Brazilian and Argentinan teams. They just cannot overpower them when it comes to championship games. Mexico has been playing in the Libertadores the last 12 years and the Sudamericana for a bunch of years also. They only have 1 trophy to show for (Pachuca). I agree that the Paraguayan and Chilean player are good but they are not all that. The real good ones are in Europe (santa Cruz, Pizarro, Fernandez, Valdez, etc.). Anyways It is not my intention to offend you or offend anyone from Mexico or any Mexican football fan.

By: Soccerrules

Soccerrules — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:13:10 +0000

Oh and another thing, Kartik never said FMF was the best leauge in the Universe..in North America, yes no doubt. In the entire western hemisphere..well that’s up for discussion because I have personally watched many FMF teams battle it out with South America’s best in Copa Sudamericana and Libertadores. Go to youtube and watch previous Chivas-Boca, America-River, America-Flamengo, etc..in past tournaments and come back here and question FMF…Anyways! Nice work Kartik…

By: Soccerrules

Soccerrules — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:08:24 +0000

Okay, Bolacuadrada…so according to you, what mexican players have a problem adapting to European soccer? Because from what I have seen many of them play amazingly well with their teams and are quite successfull..Take Salcido and Guardado for example. 2 of Mexico’s nationals finest are doing extremely well in their teams, and that’s not to mention Moreno, De Nigris and several others. And I don’t know what FMF games you watch, because the ones I’ve seen are extremely fast-paced and have great technique and quality, something MLS lacks greatly. And if you can’t remember any other great SouthAmerican player who plays in Mexico, then it is very obvious you don’t know anything about it. Just look at the Chile and Paraguay squads and watch out for the ones that are Mexican based. I dare you to watch them play in their National team and then in their FMF team and come back here and say they are slow and out of shape.

By: Bolacuadrada

Bolacuadrada — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:31:56 +0000

If Mexico is the best league in the universe, why do they have to make two tournaments per year? Not only they have two competitions but they also have to add playoffs to each one of them. The mexican football owners know that if they had an European or Brazilian style competition their league would be worth crap. All I know that no matter how much promotion Kartik makes for Mexican Soccer people will not wacht it. There is a reason why Mexican players have problems adapting to Europe. Their soccer is to slow and the players are not even in shape. As for the Southamerican players in Mexico, they only have Cabanas and ????? I cannot remember another name.