Columbus Supporters Respond

by Kartik Krishnaiyer on September 25, 2008 · 5 comments

Here is a response from Allen Skaggs, A Crew sup­porter to my post the other day:

Your accu­sa­tions against the Crew sup­port­ers is so far from the truth that I dare you to find out for real what’s going on in the Nordecke.

I would love to speak with you about the Toronto FC sit­u­a­tion.  I am the guy who orga­nized the bus trip for 50 of the fans (first time accom­plished).  I have first-hand account of what hap­pened and if you ques­tion my objec­tiv­ity, even the Toronto Sun reported a fairly objec­tive and mostly truth­ful account­ing of the events.

And, I can put you in touch with the par­ents of the chil­dren in my group.  I can put you in touch with the older gen­tle­men on my bus.  You can speak with the young cou­ples on the bus.  But, to take the time to actu­ally research some­thing before you make accu­sa­tions would have taken time and got in the way of the truth.

As for the West Ham inci­dent — THEY came into the Nordecke and THEY started prob­lems.  Any­one has a right to pro­tect them­selves and those around them.

The racial slur was by a sin­gle per­son, not the entire sup­port­ers group.  To gen­er­al­ize a group as racist because of one idiot’s state­ments is sim­ply ignorant.

The throw­ing of stream­ers has stopped in Colum­bus per the MLS rule.  But, for some rea­son it has NOT stopped in Toronto.  Is this pos­si­bly because they are the “golden” team — mean­ing they put more fans in the sta­dium on a reg­u­lar basis than other teams?

You accuse the Crew fans of throw­ing bot­tles and coins onto the pitch…?  To what are you refer­ring?  Are you just mak­ing this crap up now?

Mark McCullers and Sigi Schmidt not only tol­er­ate the sup­port­ers but they embrace us and even sub­si­dized some of the costs to the Toronto game to make sure WE were there when the Crew won the Tril­lium Cup.  We cel­e­brated for hours with them later in the hotel.

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1 nope September 24, 2008 at 10:43 pm

What I hear are a lot of excuses. They're racists and wannabee hoolies I have been there.

Why do problems only seem to involve columbus at home or away to Toronto……..

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2 Nick September 25, 2008 at 1:07 am

^ You're probably the guy from facebook who threatens 12 year old kids. If you're not Chris Harris, you better disassociate yourself from him quick before he gives all off Toronto a bad name. Oops… too late you cup/streamer/metal/piss throwing canucks! MLS doesn't need the hat up north.

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3 Allen September 25, 2008 at 9:42 am

Nick – What the H*&^ are you talking about? Your comments are random and oddly confusing. I don't know who Chris Harris is and I'm not on Facebook (at least I can't get into my account anymore). I'm a Crew fan and I was replying to Kartik's article against the Crew supporters… I was in Toronto when the “Canucks” were throwing beer and metal pieces of the stadium at Robbie Rogers. It didn't matter, we still won the Trillium Cup.

Nope – There is not one excuse in my post. These are explanations, there's a difference. But, I wouldn't expect someone who is ANONYMOUS to understand that difference. There are problems at many other MSL games other than those that the Crew are at. But, thanks for trying…

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4 kkfla737 September 25, 2008 at 12:09 pm

Nick, what and who are you talking about?

I think you comments at the very least deserve an explanation.

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5 Nick September 25, 2008 at 1:19 pm

I was referring to the guy who called all crew fans racist. I was also a little intoxicated at the time of posting. My analogies.

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