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		<title>By: vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep kartik, 
big win in saprissa. MLS needs &quot;to represent&quot;. Of course, looking at the standings shows that the caribbean isnt. PR &amp; the 2 T&amp;T teams are in dead last. MLS could take this seriously, but it could end up just being seen as a Mexico vs US tournament. Costa RIca is good, but how about paying 2 s. american teams to play in final 16 of CCL? Maybe from Colombia &amp; northern state where Recife clubs play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep kartik,<br />
big win in saprissa. MLS needs &#8220;to represent&#8221;. Of course, looking at the standings shows that the caribbean isnt. PR &amp; the 2 T&amp;T teams are in dead last. MLS could take this seriously, but it could end up just being seen as a Mexico vs US tournament. Costa RIca is good, but how about paying 2 s. american teams to play in final 16 of CCL? Maybe from Colombia &amp; northern state where Recife clubs play?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe:&quot;I admit I know very little about Saprissa. Good for them. Wish I could say the same for MLS teams. Especially with such a good standing in the MLS race thus far, would it be out of the question to play the B squad against MLS (inferior) competition and play the starting 11 against Saprissa?&quot;

You do realize the MLS team the Crew plays next is 3 points back of them right?  That the Supporter&#039;s Shield(automatic entry into next year&#039;s group phase of the CCL) and home field advantage in the playoffs are at stake in a 6 point swing?

Besides, as the Crew showed in Costa Rica, they don&#039;t have a B team.  They all wear the colors as one team, all capable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe:&#8221;I admit I know very little about Saprissa. Good for them. Wish I could say the same for MLS teams. Especially with such a good standing in the MLS race thus far, would it be out of the question to play the B squad against MLS (inferior) competition and play the starting 11 against Saprissa?&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realize the MLS team the Crew plays next is 3 points back of them right?  That the Supporter&#8217;s Shield(automatic entry into next year&#8217;s group phase of the CCL) and home field advantage in the playoffs are at stake in a 6 point swing?</p>
<p>Besides, as the Crew showed in Costa Rica, they don&#8217;t have a B team.  They all wear the colors as one team, all capable.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I sparked such a response.  Still not feeling th MLS teams in CCL, but I&#039;ll definitely give it another look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I sparked such a response.  Still not feeling th MLS teams in CCL, but I&#8217;ll definitely give it another look.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, it should be noted that Columbus IS taking this competition seriously. Older veterans (Moreno, Hejduk) were resting, now from my job&#039;s viewpoint there was no reason the right-back Hejduk should have not traveled, as he is now injury-free after USMNT overload in the early MLS campaign, but he remained in the States.

The Crew&#039;s recent signing of solid striker Emilio Renteria has still not been approved for international play, let alone that Columbus has yet to send him out on an MLS pitch. He was not an option. Another artificial playing surface prompted Guillermo Barros Schelotto be sat for protection, Defender of the Year Chad Marshall has a sprained knee, stand-out defender Eric Brunner served a red-card suspension, and their left-back Gino Padula spent time hospitalized for an illness the past weekend. Three of their 4 starting defenders were forced to sit out by unwilling means, you can bet on it that they would have taken the pitch if healthy or eligible. 

Make no mistake about Columbus&#039; B squad, they are capable of getting results, more so than DC or Houston&#039;s B-squad experiments to my belief. In my opinion both DC and Houston have the caution flag out for their organizations in these CONCACAF CL matches. If I remember correctly, all Columbus starters started against Cruz Azul and look how that turned out. I spoke with Crew supporters after that incident via online means and they reported back that their organization had held a &quot;Supporter&#039;s Summit&quot; in which their coach and players met with supporters to discuss how serious CONCACAF and the World Club Cup is to them. I&#039;ve seen numerous quotes from their coach and Schelotto claiming that they are theoretically aiming for CONCACAF&#039;s throat and are confident in themselves. Caution flag here? Looks to me like Columbus has the peddle to the floor in sixth gear (and still lost 5-0 to Cruz Azul).

So go ahead, don&#039;t read up on different clubs that represent your own league or be informed of their intent to dominate both CONCACAF and MLS with the goals of getting to both World Club Cup and MLS Cup 09. And then you can save-face for missing history by writing them off as something you pretend to not want to know anything about. Bravo.

And the Hoosiers A team is maybe equivalant to, say, Florida&#039;s 3rd string? (insert raised eyebrow and smile) Relegation and promotion in NCAAF anyone??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, it should be noted that Columbus IS taking this competition seriously. Older veterans (Moreno, Hejduk) were resting, now from my job&#8217;s viewpoint there was no reason the right-back Hejduk should have not traveled, as he is now injury-free after USMNT overload in the early MLS campaign, but he remained in the States.</p>
<p>The Crew&#8217;s recent signing of solid striker Emilio Renteria has still not been approved for international play, let alone that Columbus has yet to send him out on an MLS pitch. He was not an option. Another artificial playing surface prompted Guillermo Barros Schelotto be sat for protection, Defender of the Year Chad Marshall has a sprained knee, stand-out defender Eric Brunner served a red-card suspension, and their left-back Gino Padula spent time hospitalized for an illness the past weekend. Three of their 4 starting defenders were forced to sit out by unwilling means, you can bet on it that they would have taken the pitch if healthy or eligible. </p>
<p>Make no mistake about Columbus&#8217; B squad, they are capable of getting results, more so than DC or Houston&#8217;s B-squad experiments to my belief. In my opinion both DC and Houston have the caution flag out for their organizations in these CONCACAF CL matches. If I remember correctly, all Columbus starters started against Cruz Azul and look how that turned out. I spoke with Crew supporters after that incident via online means and they reported back that their organization had held a &#8220;Supporter&#8217;s Summit&#8221; in which their coach and players met with supporters to discuss how serious CONCACAF and the World Club Cup is to them. I&#8217;ve seen numerous quotes from their coach and Schelotto claiming that they are theoretically aiming for CONCACAF&#8217;s throat and are confident in themselves. Caution flag here? Looks to me like Columbus has the peddle to the floor in sixth gear (and still lost 5-0 to Cruz Azul).</p>
<p>So go ahead, don&#8217;t read up on different clubs that represent your own league or be informed of their intent to dominate both CONCACAF and MLS with the goals of getting to both World Club Cup and MLS Cup 09. And then you can save-face for missing history by writing them off as something you pretend to not want to know anything about. Bravo.</p>
<p>And the Hoosiers A team is maybe equivalant to, say, Florida&#8217;s 3rd string? (insert raised eyebrow and smile) Relegation and promotion in NCAAF anyone??</p>
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		<title>By: 2010 Club World Cup</title>
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		<dc:creator>2010 Club World Cup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CCL is epic.  Do you guys have any idea about the history of Sportive Saprissa?  It&#039;s a storied ballclub.  This win was huge.

Continental competition should always matter over domestic competition, worldwide.  As a football club, you should always strive to be the best on earth. Period.  Don&#039;t forsake your chance to prove that, just so you could qualify for next year&#039;s edition.

And now this sets up an epic match next week at Crew Stadium vs Blue Cross.  The Crew will be gunning for revenge after the 5-0 drubbing in Mexico.  All bets are off.  The clash will be gigantic (massive).  

You can watch the Crew&#039;s next CCL opponent tomorrow at 6 Eastern on Aztec America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CCL is epic.  Do you guys have any idea about the history of Sportive Saprissa?  It&#8217;s a storied ballclub.  This win was huge.</p>
<p>Continental competition should always matter over domestic competition, worldwide.  As a football club, you should always strive to be the best on earth. Period.  Don&#8217;t forsake your chance to prove that, just so you could qualify for next year&#8217;s edition.</p>
<p>And now this sets up an epic match next week at Crew Stadium vs Blue Cross.  The Crew will be gunning for revenge after the 5-0 drubbing in Mexico.  All bets are off.  The clash will be gigantic (massive).  </p>
<p>You can watch the Crew&#8217;s next CCL opponent tomorrow at 6 Eastern on Aztec America.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post!!  Great Win for the Crew!  I am an United fan and while not as impressive we got a nice road result this week too.  I avoided seeing the result yesterday and then watched it on DVR last night.  Great goal by Gaven and great team defense and Hesmer was unbelievable!  DC&#039;s tie last year in Saprissa was actually with a 3rd string keeper and all reserves.  I think their energy got them that tie and they surprised Saprissa a little.  Columbus had that energy last night and the talent!

I have been complaining about United paying reserves to but then I started to watch some of the other UEFA group matches and even the biggest and deepest teams mix reserves with starters for their mid week away fixtures to try and draw on the road and go for the win at home.

Joe in Indy - Do a little more research before announcing Seattle didn&#039;t play reserves in the USOC.

1) They only had that other tourney to play in so it is easier to manage the roster while,CLB, DC, HOU had CCL and USOC.

2) I just watched the Sounders beat DC twice in 10 days(unfortunately) and in those games These players never made the field and some were not in the traveling 18...Evan Brown, Kevin Forrest, Stephen King, Nathan Sturgis &amp;  Jarrod Smith.  All of these players either scored key goals are had action, some significant action in all their USOC games.  Montero did not even play Seattle&#039;s first USOC game and came on as a substitute in game 2.

3) Here is a quote from Sigi after winning their play in game to qualify for the USOC over Colorado.  “It’s been awhile since I’ve been able to play in the Open Cup,” said Schmid, whose Columbus Crew teams were all eliminated in play-in games. “It was really frustrating because I’ve wanted to get back into the tournament. But for us, starting starters was really out of necessity.” 

Bottomline...Every coach puts the best possible line up they can each and every game that they have access to.  They don&#039;t want to lose as much as the fans don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post!!  Great Win for the Crew!  I am an United fan and while not as impressive we got a nice road result this week too.  I avoided seeing the result yesterday and then watched it on DVR last night.  Great goal by Gaven and great team defense and Hesmer was unbelievable!  DC&#8217;s tie last year in Saprissa was actually with a 3rd string keeper and all reserves.  I think their energy got them that tie and they surprised Saprissa a little.  Columbus had that energy last night and the talent!</p>
<p>I have been complaining about United paying reserves to but then I started to watch some of the other UEFA group matches and even the biggest and deepest teams mix reserves with starters for their mid week away fixtures to try and draw on the road and go for the win at home.</p>
<p>Joe in Indy &#8211; Do a little more research before announcing Seattle didn&#8217;t play reserves in the USOC.</p>
<p>1) They only had that other tourney to play in so it is easier to manage the roster while,CLB, DC, HOU had CCL and USOC.</p>
<p>2) I just watched the Sounders beat DC twice in 10 days(unfortunately) and in those games These players never made the field and some were not in the traveling 18&#8230;Evan Brown, Kevin Forrest, Stephen King, Nathan Sturgis &amp;  Jarrod Smith.  All of these players either scored key goals are had action, some significant action in all their USOC games.  Montero did not even play Seattle&#8217;s first USOC game and came on as a substitute in game 2.</p>
<p>3) Here is a quote from Sigi after winning their play in game to qualify for the USOC over Colorado.  “It’s been awhile since I’ve been able to play in the Open Cup,” said Schmid, whose Columbus Crew teams were all eliminated in play-in games. “It was really frustrating because I’ve wanted to get back into the tournament. But for us, starting starters was really out of necessity.” </p>
<p>Bottomline&#8230;Every coach puts the best possible line up they can each and every game that they have access to.  They don&#8217;t want to lose as much as the fans don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: peter osgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter osgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, great thread. 

Serious congrats to the Crew. They have a fantastic core support, have been playing the most interesting football for several years in the leauge, and I still hope that Gavin can step up, move to Europe and have a great National team career. 

Up the Crew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, great thread. </p>
<p>Serious congrats to the Crew. They have a fantastic core support, have been playing the most interesting football for several years in the leauge, and I still hope that Gavin can step up, move to Europe and have a great National team career. </p>
<p>Up the Crew!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do appreciate the attention this site gives to CCL.  ESPN generally offers a one paragraph mention each week they play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do appreciate the attention this site gives to CCL.  ESPN generally offers a one paragraph mention each week they play.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an ignorant statement to say that MLS teams value MLS games over CCL games.  The only person Seattle didn&#039;t start in their USOC run was Ljungberg.  And he did play in the final.  For example, Keller (MVP candidate) started every USOC game.  Montero played in all but one game.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I know the roster size makes it difficult to compete in more than one competition.  But I don&#039;t understand the universal choice of MLS teams to value a MLS game that you really don&#039;t need to win to get into the playoffs over a CCL game you arguably must win to advance.  I know there is a stronger financial incentive to win MLS than to win CCL.  Maybe that explains a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an ignorant statement to say that MLS teams value MLS games over CCL games.  The only person Seattle didn&#8217;t start in their USOC run was Ljungberg.  And he did play in the final.  For example, Keller (MVP candidate) started every USOC game.  Montero played in all but one game.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I know the roster size makes it difficult to compete in more than one competition.  But I don&#8217;t understand the universal choice of MLS teams to value a MLS game that you really don&#8217;t need to win to get into the playoffs over a CCL game you arguably must win to advance.  I know there is a stronger financial incentive to win MLS than to win CCL.  Maybe that explains a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But when you take 60% of the crowd out of the place, it isn&#039;t exactly &quot;One for the Ages&quot; either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But when you take 60% of the crowd out of the place, it isn&#8217;t exactly &#8220;One for the Ages&#8221; either.</p>
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