Comments on: Can There be a Better Tandem For MLS’ Success Than Beckham and Donovan? http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277 Daily Analysis of Major League Soccer Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:06:57 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Leyton http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28460 Leyton Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:20:02 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28460 blablabla honstly I am suprised by the MLS. When I moved to the US from England I really didn't think much of MLS.....also didn't help when i watched a really boring game with Colorado Rapids ..... but thats the problom they don't show enough MLS games for someone to get into it but evetully I got more chance to watch some more games and got into it. I think MLS have allot of good teams (Huston , LA, RSL, Fire )....atlist I like to watch them the most .... altho it does get anoying that the players get really tired after 60 Mins I Think clubs need more fitness also I agree with Mike but I understand why MlS does it and its because the US is too big ! but maybe they should just give the league title to eachside as a winner of the East and West confrences and the playoffs should be mixed with east and west so the leage feels more untied Also the local teams have to be more visable for the local ppl! and if MLS wants more attention they should find States and city in the US that loves soccer and add them up for example SEATTLE! more of those kinda teams which have an absoulte backing from their local commmuntiy even with all that its all bla bla bla because we can't do anything about anything lets just cross our fingers and hope the next year its gonna get even better ! blablabla

honstly I am suprised by the MLS. When I moved to the US from England
I really didn’t think much of MLS…..also didn’t help when i watched a really boring game with Colorado Rapids …..
but thats the problom they don’t show enough MLS games for someone to get into it
but evetully I got more chance to watch some more games and got into it.
I think MLS have allot of good teams (Huston , LA, RSL, Fire )….atlist I like to watch them the most ….
altho it does get anoying that the players get really tired after 60 Mins
I Think clubs need more fitness

also I agree with Mike but I understand why MlS does it
and its because the US is too big ! but maybe they should just give the league title to eachside as a winner of the East and West confrences and the playoffs should be mixed with east and west so the leage feels more untied

Also the local teams have to be more visable for the local ppl!
and if MLS wants more attention they should find States and city in the US that loves soccer and add them up
for example SEATTLE!
more of those kinda teams which have an absoulte backing from their local commmuntiy

even with all that its all bla bla bla because we can’t do anything about anything lets
just cross our fingers and hope the next year its gonna get even better !

]]> By: Brad in SoCal http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28219 Brad in SoCal Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:10:17 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28219 As a Galaxy fan, I say congratulations to RSL. Beckerman was impressive controlling midfield, and Rimando was awesome in goal. Beckham had a number of great passes that almost worked, but didn't. Donovan didn't see enough of the ball during the run of play. The missed PK--devastating, obviously, but it happens to the best of them. As for the topic immediately at hand, I agree with the anti-gimmick folks. Put a good product on the field (a grass field with proper lines, please), pay the players fairly, and keep ticket prices (and parking prices!) as low as possible, and MLS will continue to grow. Beckham may even retire after South Africa, and then where will the "partnership" be? As a Galaxy fan, I say congratulations to RSL. Beckerman was impressive controlling midfield, and Rimando was awesome in goal. Beckham had a number of great passes that almost worked, but didn’t. Donovan didn’t see enough of the ball during the run of play. The missed PK–devastating, obviously, but it happens to the best of them.

As for the topic immediately at hand, I agree with the anti-gimmick folks. Put a good product on the field (a grass field with proper lines, please), pay the players fairly, and keep ticket prices (and parking prices!) as low as possible, and MLS will continue to grow. Beckham may even retire after South Africa, and then where will the “partnership” be?

]]> By: RSLFaninKC http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28178 RSLFaninKC Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:17:39 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28178 I was referring to 11 wins in the regular season, since 9 out of 10 articles I read leading up to MLS Cup 2009 had to hammer on that point while failing to mention the Galaxy only had 1 more regular season win. It is a stupid argument and not something that should be used against RSL. The Cup was earned, victory is ours, and RSL are the champions of MLS :) Long Live RSL! I was referring to 11 wins in the regular season, since 9 out of 10 articles I read leading up to MLS Cup 2009 had to hammer on that point while failing to mention the Galaxy only had 1 more regular season win. It is a stupid argument and not something that should be used against RSL. The Cup was earned, victory is ours, and RSL are the champions of MLS :) Long Live RSL!

]]> By: Charles http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28153 Charles Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:59:34 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28153 RSLFaninKC>>>"Who cares if RSL had only 11 wins? Last time I checked, the Galaxy only had 12" RSL didn't have 11 wins, they had 15 ( the most in the MLS for 2009 ), including wins over LA in the regular season AND the final game of the season, the MLS Cup, to be the best team in the MLS for 2009. As a side note, they outnumbered the LA fans 10-1 at the MLS Cup...unless the reporter is counting the great Donovan and Beckham, who failed to hussle in the biggest game of the year, as the strength of 10,000 people. RSLFaninKC>>>”Who cares if RSL had only 11 wins? Last time I checked, the Galaxy only had 12″

RSL didn’t have 11 wins, they had 15 ( the most in the MLS for 2009 ), including wins over LA in the regular season AND the final game of the season, the MLS Cup, to be the best team in the MLS for 2009.

As a side note, they outnumbered the LA fans 10-1 at the MLS Cup…unless the reporter is counting the great Donovan and Beckham, who failed to hussle in the biggest game of the year, as the strength of 10,000 people.

]]> By: Charles http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28151 Charles Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:51:57 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28151 Great posts to a absolutely incorrect article. Let's compare. LA versus LA in LA, doesn't sell out for a PLAYOFF game. I don't even know how this is possible. Zero articles about the game in the LA newspaper the week leading up to the biggest soccer game of the year. Sure the championship was played in front of the biggest MLS Cup attendance in a long time....in SEATTLE...with almost no LA fans. The league needs Seattle to win the next three years if you are arguing for "non-parity for the good of the league". Seattle would have sold 50,000+ seats for every game in 2010 if they had made the finals, not even needing to win. That is LA's ticket revenue plus 2 other teams for the league. What is LA going to do with this success? They will struggle to fill a stadium with a capacity of half of that. I hope they do, but your argument is rediculous. WOW. Great posts to a absolutely incorrect article.
Let’s compare.
LA versus LA in LA, doesn’t sell out for a PLAYOFF game. I don’t even know how this is possible. Zero articles about the game in the LA newspaper the week leading up to the biggest soccer game of the year.

Sure the championship was played in front of the biggest MLS Cup attendance in a long time….in SEATTLE…with almost no LA fans.
The league needs Seattle to win the next three years if you are arguing for “non-parity for the good of the league”.
Seattle would have sold 50,000+ seats for every game in 2010 if they had made the finals, not even needing to win. That is LA’s ticket revenue plus 2 other teams for the league. What is LA going to do with this success? They will struggle to fill a stadium with a capacity of half of that.

I hope they do, but your argument is rediculous.
WOW.

]]> By: Oscar http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28128 Oscar Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:42:01 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28128 I'd love to see one of the MLStalk writers crunch some numbers on the fiscal state of MLS. I would assume there's some sort of golden plateau, where if every team in MLS consistently breaks 20,000 seats filled in a game and X amount of ratings, the league as a whole can expand their shizz. I apologize if my wholly unresearched estimate of 20,000 is off the mark; I'm a Sounders fan, so my sense of reality about the average team's numbers are skewed. I’d love to see one of the MLStalk writers crunch some numbers on the fiscal state of MLS. I would assume there’s some sort of golden plateau, where if every team in MLS consistently breaks 20,000 seats filled in a game and X amount of ratings, the league as a whole can expand their shizz.

I apologize if my wholly unresearched estimate of 20,000 is off the mark; I’m a Sounders fan, so my sense of reality about the average team’s numbers are skewed.

]]> By: dan http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28120 dan Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:45:09 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28120 what the MLS needs to do is raise the cap to 4 or 5 million, bring back the reserve league, make the DP salary cap exempt, build good club promotion to put people in the seats(Hunt Sports group are you listening). and force ESPN to promote the game better. Espn needs to start letting people know that the USA has a Pro Soccer League. Give us an MLS show so the people know who the teams are and who the players are, Espn needs to give MLS more Exsposure on Sportscenter and Inside Report. what the MLS needs to do is raise the cap to 4 or 5 million, bring back the reserve league, make the DP salary cap exempt, build good club promotion to put people in the seats(Hunt Sports group are you listening). and force ESPN to promote the game better.

Espn needs to start letting people know that the USA has a Pro Soccer League. Give us an MLS show so the people know who the teams are and who the players are, Espn needs to give MLS more Exsposure on Sportscenter and Inside Report.

]]> By: Emerald City SC http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28106 Emerald City SC Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:33:33 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28106 mitch, may i call you mitch? you seem to think that without ageing superstars that MLS would fall. sure it would be great for the league and exciting but theres alot of american and *cough* canadian *cough* talent out there. plus i think MLS has grown to a point where we should stop talking about the league as a whole and rather talk about individual teams. you dont see the EPL being talk about as a whole other than political issues. mitch, may i call you mitch? you seem to think that without ageing superstars that MLS would fall. sure it would be great for the league and exciting but theres alot of american and *cough* canadian *cough* talent out there. plus i think MLS has grown to a point where we should stop talking about the league as a whole and rather talk about individual teams. you dont see the EPL being talk about as a whole other than political issues.

]]> By: LI Matt http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28099 LI Matt Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:59:51 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28099 <i>...the LA Galaxy have possibly the greatest tandem of professional soccer players to ever play together on the same U.S. club team, ever</i> *cough*Pele/Beckenbauer*cough* …the LA Galaxy have possibly the greatest tandem of professional soccer players to ever play together on the same U.S. club team, ever

*cough*Pele/Beckenbauer*cough*

]]> By: andy in ohio http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/can-there-be-a-better-tandem-for-mls-success-than-beckham-and-donovan/7277#comment-28070 andy in ohio Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:51:29 +0000 http://www.majorleaguesoccertalk.com/?p=7277#comment-28070 The only way MLS will be accepted as a big league in the US sports landscape will be if the US makes a run in a world cup and MLS start paying USA players major league money to the talent to stay and grow the league. Until then MLS is major league in name only, and thats coming from someone who loves my Crew. I want it to be taken seriously, but there is no way the casual sports fan will respect a league losing good MLS players to Europe over $75,000 (*cough* Rolfe *cough*). I should also mention sitting young players on the benches while canceling the reserve league. Its going to take a long time, and over-expansion will cause quality of play to suffer if the league isn't careful. Stars are a temporary solution, success of the USMNT will be permanent however. The only way MLS will be accepted as a big league in the US sports landscape will be if the US makes a run in a world cup and MLS start paying USA players major league money to the talent to stay and grow the league. Until then MLS is major league in name only, and thats coming from someone who loves my Crew. I want it to be taken seriously, but there is no way the casual sports fan will respect a league losing good MLS players to Europe over $75,000 (*cough* Rolfe *cough*). I should also mention sitting young players on the benches while canceling the reserve league. Its going to take a long time, and over-expansion will cause quality of play to suffer if the league isn’t careful. Stars are a temporary solution, success of the USMNT will be permanent however.

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